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Oracle_0128 · 11-10-2005, 09:49 PM

After reading this interview, I really feel like I owe Devin a huge apology. :(

Devin Interview

DLH1970 · 11-10-2005, 11:00 PM

I wouldn't be so quick with that apology. It's unfortunate that she may have had to change her story because of editorial reasons, but lets face facts. She has been dragging this story on for three years. You can blame "War Games", "Year One" and now "Infinte Crisis" all you want, but it's obvious that Grayson has had pacing problems from the beginning. This could have been done and over with two years ago. I'm more the ready for her to move on.

kipster · 11-10-2005, 11:20 PM

Devin Grayson comes across as one of the most tactless, clueless and classless creaters I've ever read about, in pretty much every interview she does. This was no exception.

She says she might have had a slight pacing problem? Yeah, and Louisiana might have had a little summer rain named Katrina go through.

She has ruined the Nightwing book, just the same as she did with The Titans a few years ago. She makes comments that DC didn't give her info in time for her to change the direction of her story, yet as far as I've read, she's the only creator who has had that problem. It's always somebody else's fault, right Ms. Grayson?

This is not the 1st interview I've read where she made snarky comments about DC, and being out of the loop. Well, just leave DC, leave comics, and maybe you'd be a lot happier. I know I would.

Ian Boothby · 11-10-2005, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DLH1970

I wouldn't be so quick with that apology. It's unfortunate that she may have had to change her story because of editorial reasons, but lets face facts. She has been dragging this story on for three years. You can blame "War Games", "Year One" and now "Infinte Crisis" all you want, but it's obvious that Grayson has had pacing problems from the beginning. This could have been done and over with two years ago. I'm more the ready for her to move on.

I don't know, if I had a storyline going and was told at the last second that the ending would have to be the opposite of what I'd planned and that kind of thing happened over and over? Like building a house of cards in a car that keeps changin direction randomly.

Nick Kal · 11-11-2005, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kipster

She says she might have had a slight pacing problem? Yeah, and Louisiana might have had a little summer rain named Katrina go through.

That was tasteless.

As for Grayson, I don't think her Nightwing is that bad...

Night Swordsman · 11-11-2005, 12:52 AM

Frankly i ENJOY Devin's work,and will be sad when she leaves the book.

I also hope she will be getting a new series soon,DC or Marvel.

NickThompson · 11-11-2005, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian Boothby

I don't know, if I had a storyline going and was told at the last second that the ending would have to be the opposite of what I'd planned and that kind of thing happened over and over? Like building a house of cards in a car that keeps changin direction randomly.

I agree. How would IDentity Crisis have ended up if after plotting it all out Meltzer was told he had to cut an issue, as well as changing who did it.

**Gail Simone** · 11-11-2005, 01:32 AM

I think Devin's great. I always enjoy her stuff tremendously.

I think she was sabotaged (unintentionally) on Nightwing, and it's a dang shame. But I still enjoyed it a lot. I just think she wanted to compress that story a great deal more. But I'm not speaking for her...that's just my impression.

Gail

Jeff Brady · 11-11-2005, 01:59 AM

I am THOROUGHLY enjoying Ms. Grayson's run on Nightwing, as I do most of her work. She gets the Bat-characters, with out a doubt.

Forsaken_One · 11-11-2005, 02:17 AM

Meh, I dropped Nightwing back around issue 93. After Devin Grayson killed off all the best supporting characters of the Dixon run, introduced the horrid character that was Tarantula, and completely tore down the world I'd come to enjoy I didn't have any patience for her so called rebuilding. 93 was just about the last straw out of many. And frankly I don't see how all that could be caused by DC editorial, I strongly suspect she had a hand in it.

Jeff Brady · 11-11-2005, 02:27 AM

Editors can dictate when a character dies, or is introduced, the length of a storyline, basically EVERYTHING in the book. In some cases, it's the writer's job to try to make it an interesting story.

Ian Boothby · 11-11-2005, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NickThompson

I agree. How would IDentity Crisis have ended up if after plotting it all out Meltzer was told he had to cut an issue, as well as changing who did it.

I'd have been happy with "it was all a dream".

Cam63 · 11-11-2005, 03:49 AM

I haven't read Nightwing for a while.

It's just not my cuppa.

Lester C. · 11-11-2005, 04:20 AM

I’ve said this before but initially I hated her run with a passion. I grew up reading Dixon's Nightwing and how dare she destroy my beloved universe and change the iconic Nightwing. A while back I reread all of her issues as Nightwing and chose to view her first story arc as an issue zero relaunch. Once I did that I found a very compelling read that was well drawn. Most of the complaints I’ve read haven't been about her writing or about the artist working the title but rather at the fact that the Chuck Dixon created universe no longer exists.

One thing that has truly bothered me is how vicious fans have been towards Devin. I’m not talking about the person that has attacked her writing or what she has done with any of the characters because as far as I’m concerned if you paid your money you have right to complain about what you bought. I’m talking about the person, who for years now, have savagely attacked her personal life. People forget this but Devin was a lot more involved on the internet than she is now and while I can’t speak for her I’m guessing the name calling had something to do with self imposed exile. People also forget that Chuck’s run various DC books ended with a whimper and the fact that Devin Nightwing sales have been a consistently strong performer for DC.

DLH1970 · 11-11-2005, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Gail Simone

I think Devin's great. I always enjoy her stuff tremendously.

I think she was sabotaged (unintentionally) on Nightwing, and it's a dang shame. But I still enjoyed it a lot. I just think she wanted to compress that story a great deal more. But I'm not speaking for her...that's just my impression.

Gail

I agree that it sucks if Winick or Johns writes something that is in complete contrast to her story. After all she is writing the core title. She deserves some consideration.

I still maintain that she had more then enough time to tell her story. One of the biggest complaints about her Nightwing besides "out of character" writing is that we have gotten issue after issue where nothing happens. This is all on her. You just can't complain later on that you couldn't finish the story the way you wanted.

11-10-2005, 09:49 PM	#1
Oracle_0128 Opinionated B!tch Join Date: May 2005 Location: In your worst nightmares! Posts: 338	Devin Grayson Interview... After reading this interview, I really feel like I owe Devin a huge apology. :( Devin Interview __________________ The BLOG of an opinionated mad woman! **************************************** Or my DCU or Marvel fan fic sites!

11-11-2005, 01:59 AM	#9
Jeff Brady Elder Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 14,073	I am THOROUGHLY enjoying Ms. Grayson's run on Nightwing, as I do most of her work. She gets the Bat-characters, with out a doubt. __________________ Google is your friend. Have a question? Look it up. itsalwaystheshyquietones.blogspot.com Don Blanco on my fears: Jeff, you are another freethinker threatened by free thought. Mark Wallace discovers he's not as smart as he thinks: Go on, Sonny, get your kicks by making smarmy comments now. I won't reply (I won't even read them), but even you will know, deep inside, that you have #&%@ed up by talking the wrong kind of crap to the wrong person.

11-11-2005, 02:17 AM	#10
Forsaken_One All-Around Geek Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,359	Meh, I dropped Nightwing back around issue 93. After Devin Grayson killed off all the best supporting characters of the Dixon run, introduced the horrid character that was Tarantula, and completely tore down the world I'd come to enjoy I didn't have any patience for her so called rebuilding. 93 was just about the last straw out of many. And frankly I don't see how all that could be caused by DC editorial, I strongly suspect she had a hand in it. __________________ Remember, only by treating everyone with dignity and respect can we maintain the element of surprise for that inevitable day when we wipe our enemies from the face of the Earth.

11-11-2005, 02:27 AM	#11
Jeff Brady Elder Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 14,073	Editors can dictate when a character dies, or is introduced, the length of a storyline, basically EVERYTHING in the book. In some cases, it's the writer's job to try to make it an interesting story. __________________ Google is your friend. Have a question? Look it up. itsalwaystheshyquietones.blogspot.com Don Blanco on my fears: Jeff, you are another freethinker threatened by free thought. Mark Wallace discovers he's not as smart as he thinks: Go on, Sonny, get your kicks by making smarmy comments now. I won't reply (I won't even read them), but even you will know, deep inside, that you have #&%@ed up by talking the wrong kind of crap to the wrong person.

11-11-2005, 03:49 AM	#13
Cam63 Elder Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Oztrailya Posts: 36,093	I haven't read Nightwing for a while. It's just not my cuppa. __________________ " Why do stars suddenly appear, every time I drink beer ? " ~~~ Karen Ellis

11-10-2005, 11:00 PM	#2
DLH1970 Can you hear me now? Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast Posts: 283	I wouldn't be so quick with that apology. It's unfortunate that she may have had to change her story because of editorial reasons, but lets face facts. She has been dragging this story on for three years. You can blame "War Games", "Year One" and now "Infinte Crisis" all you want, but it's obvious that Grayson has had pacing problems from the beginning. This could have been done and over with two years ago. I'm more the ready for her to move on.

11-10-2005, 11:20 PM	#3
kipster Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 197	Devin Grayson comes across as one of the most tactless, clueless and classless creaters I've ever read about, in pretty much every interview she does. This was no exception. She says she might have had a slight pacing problem? Yeah, and Louisiana might have had a little summer rain named Katrina go through. She has ruined the Nightwing book, just the same as she did with The Titans a few years ago. She makes comments that DC didn't give her info in time for her to change the direction of her story, yet as far as I've read, she's the only creator who has had that problem. It's always somebody else's fault, right Ms. Grayson? This is not the 1st interview I've read where she made snarky comments about DC, and being out of the loop. Well, just leave DC, leave comics, and maybe you'd be a lot happier. I know I would.

11-11-2005, 12:52 AM	#6
Night Swordsman Defender of Kittens Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,527	Frankly i ENJOY Devin's work,and will be sad when she leaves the book. I also hope she will be getting a new series soon,DC or Marvel.

11-11-2005, 01:32 AM	#8
Gail Simone Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: in the yard Posts: 16,834	I think Devin's great. I always enjoy her stuff tremendously. I think she was sabotaged (unintentionally) on Nightwing, and it's a dang shame. But I still enjoyed it a lot. I just think she wanted to compress that story a great deal more. But I'm not speaking for her...that's just my impression. Gail

11-11-2005, 04:20 AM	#14
Lester C. Elder Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 27,662	I’ve said this before but initially I hated her run with a passion. I grew up reading Dixon's Nightwing and how dare she destroy my beloved universe and change the iconic Nightwing. A while back I reread all of her issues as Nightwing and chose to view her first story arc as an issue zero relaunch. Once I did that I found a very compelling read that was well drawn. Most of the complaints I’ve read haven't been about her writing or about the artist working the title but rather at the fact that the Chuck Dixon created universe no longer exists. One thing that has truly bothered me is how vicious fans have been towards Devin. I’m not talking about the person that has attacked her writing or what she has done with any of the characters because as far as I’m concerned if you paid your money you have right to complain about what you bought. I’m talking about the person, who for years now, have savagely attacked her personal life. People forget this but Devin was a lot more involved on the internet than she is now and while I can’t speak for her I’m guessing the name calling had something to do with self imposed exile. People also forget that Chuck’s run various DC books ended with a whimper and the fact that Devin Nightwing sales have been a consistently strong performer for DC.

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