The Anti-Monitor vs. the Marvel Universe

[DracoMalfoy]

No prep involved. No time-traveling. The Anti-Monitor is at the pinnacle of it's power.

[Asian Knight]

My money is on the Marvel Universe. Galactus, Living Tribunal, Iron Man, Silver Surfer, Eternity, Infinity, Firelord, Super Nova (Richard Rider), Human Torch (Johnny Storm), and Nova (Frankie Raye) to name a few.

[TheGeneral]

I'll go with the Anti monitor. How many realities were taken out by Him before he finally went down?

Thow just like DC Marvel has enough big guys that they might be able to take it, DC got lucky would Marvel also be??

[Lochdale]

Originally Posted by TheGeneral

I'll go with the Anti monitor. How many realities were taken out by Him before he finally went down?

Thow just like DC Marvel has enough big guys that they might be able to take it, DC got lucky would Marvel also be??

I don't think the MU would be under much of a threat. I suspect Thanos alone would be enough but what with Eternity, the Skyfathers, Galactus etc. the Anti-Monitor isn't going to last too long.

[XPac]

Originally Posted by TheGeneral

I'll go with the Anti monitor. How many realities were taken out by Him before he finally went down?

Thow just like DC Marvel has enough big guys that they might be able to take it, DC got lucky would Marvel also be??

Wasn't Flash able to hurt this guy, or something?

Anyways, Anti-Monitor is an uber threat. But in Marvel, he'd be well met. Marvel cosmics are more organized than their DC counter parts... when a big threat shows up, they're able to circle the wagons.

With Thanos and Warlock around, the Marvel Universe will be saved.

[SiliconDream]

"Pinnacle of his power" means PC Kryptonians get swatted like ants, PC Darkseid gets beat down easily and even the Spectre has to try really really hard. And since the Anti-Monitor was killing universe after universe he should presumably be able to take Eternity and the other cosmics in a straight fight.

However, as I recall the A-M relied on a lot of external boosts to his power--tech, his own universe, etc.--and a strike force of, say, Doom/Kang/Richards/Thanos/Surfer/Gladiator should be able to get rid of most of that stuff with relative ease. I think the MU could take him out much the same way the (extended) DCU did--chip away at his resource base and then throw all the cosmics and über-mutants at him once he's weakened.

[Lochdale]

Originally Posted by SiliconDream

"Pinnacle of his power" means PC Kryptonians get swatted like ants, PC Darkseid gets beat down easily and even the Spectre has to try really really hard. And since the Anti-Monitor was killing universe after universe he should presumably be able to take Eternity and the other cosmics in a straight fight.

However, as I recall the A-M relied on a lot of external boosts to his power--tech, his own universe, etc.--and a strike force of, say, Doom/Kang/Richards/Thanos/Surfer/Gladiator should be able to get rid of most of that stuff with relative ease. I think the MU could take him out much the same way the (extended) DCU did--chip away at his resource base and then throw all the cosmics and über-mutants at him once he's weakened.

Eternity constitutes the multi-verse so Universe stomping feats aren't that impressive in comparison. The same applies to the Celestials.

[SiliconDream]

Originally Posted by Lochdale

Eternity constitutes the multi-verse so Universe stomping feats aren't that impressive in comparison. The same applies to the Celestials.

He may constitute a multiverse, but the MU contains planes outside his purview. Thanos has suggested going there to look for other Infinity Gems, for instance, and the various universes brought up in the Infinity Abyss are outside Eternity's realm (since Thanos with the Heart of the Universe took out Eternity and our universe, without affecting the "under-verse" where Adam Warlock was.)

[Howard Allan]

Originally Posted by DracoMalfoy

No prep involved. No time-traveling. The Anti-Monitor is at the pinnacle of it's power.

The Living Tribunal snaps his fingers and the Anti-Monitor is turned into a bucket of Kentucy Fried Chicken.

[Lochdale]

Originally Posted by SiliconDream

He may constitute a multiverse, but the MU contains planes outside his purview. Thanos has suggested going there to look for other Infinity Gems, for instance, and the various universes brought up in the Infinity Abyss are outside Eternity's realm (since Thanos with the Heart of the Universe took out Eternity and our universe, without affecting the "under-verse" where Adam Warlock was.)

Well that's Thanos who was a damn sight more effective than the Anti-Monitor was. Eternity would appear to be able to stand up to the Anti-Monitor with ease. As a general rule, the MU high-ends tend to trump most of the DCU's high-ends.

[CDTM]

Originally Posted by SiliconDream

"Pinnacle of his power" means PC Kryptonians get swatted like ants, PC Darkseid gets beat down easily and even the Spectre has to try really really hard. And since the Anti-Monitor was killing universe after universe he should presumably be able to take Eternity and the other cosmics in a straight fight.

However, as I recall the A-M relied on a lot of external boosts to his power--tech, his own universe, etc.--and a strike force of, say, Doom/Kang/Richards/Thanos/Surfer/Gladiator should be able to get rid of most of that stuff with relative ease. I think the MU could take him out much the same way the (extended) DCU did--chip away at his resource base and then throw all the cosmics and über-mutants at him once he's weakened.

If he's at the pinnacle of power, I assume this implies a mixed MU/DCU, with the MU having a similar wall into Quard?

That means the AM could just fire off his Anti Matter Canon or collapse his side of the wall and be done with it..

[CDTM]

Originally Posted by Lochdale

Well that's Thanos who was a damn sight more effective than the Anti-Monitor was. Eternity would appear to be able to stand up to the Anti-Monitor with ease. As a general rule, the MU high-ends tend to trump most of the DCU's high-ends.

Thanos more effective then AM? Thanos beat his universal beings, and controlled his universe. Anti Monitor defeated Spectre, basically THE universal being at the time, and outright destroyed multiple universes...

[XPac]

Originally Posted by CDTM

Thanos more effective then AM? Thanos beat his universal beings, and controlled his universe. Anti Monitor defeated Spectre, basically THE universal being at the time, and outright destroyed multiple universes...

Thanos became God though... that's pretty tough to top.

[Yogi]

Reed and Doom activate some funky time dialation device which gives them all the time in the world to prep. For kicks, they include Dr. Strange and Thanos in their little think tank.

[Lochdale]

Originally Posted by CDTM

Thanos more effective then AM? Thanos beat his universal beings, and controlled his universe. Anti Monitor defeated Spectre, basically THE universal being at the time, and outright destroyed multiple universes...

The AM never had the level of control over the DCU that Thanos had over the MU...twice! The AM never impressed me as a true cosmic villian. I just don't see how he comes close to any of the real high-end MU cosmics. Hell, I think a prepped Dr. Strange could take him.