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T Rath · 05-23-2005, 03:05 PM

From LITG on Marvel's increasing number of errors in collected editions - specifically the high dollar hard covers:

These errors have been blamed on an overworked trade paperback department, one that some consider understaffed since positions were retrenched a number of years ago to cut wasteful working practices. However Joe Quesada told me "Youngquist works his butt off on these trades and a few of the books you're talking about had mistakes from years ago, incorrect and unfair to blame them on Jeff's group. This added to the fact that DC has just as many mistakes in their books, yet no one would dare to write something like this."

Add in that Johnston says Quesada says DC doesn't have to turn a profit, that delays on Marvel books are ok because Watchmen was late, that Jemas made all the errors when it came to Tsunami and other failed publishing tries (actually I liked that Marvel tried something new even if it didn't work out), that the Daredevil: Father miscue is unrealistic expectations from fans who don't understand that being EIC and doing a comic are mutually exclusive (hear that Stan Lee!), the House of M stolen photo still has not been addressed and we see...

...It's never Joe's fault! In fact, I'll go so far as to say that it's the internet's fault! We all know how much he thinks of the people that use it.

Edit to include link to Rich's column. Nice job Rich, good to see you back!

Jake V · 05-23-2005, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by T Rath

From LITG on Marvel's increasing number of errors in collected editions - specifically the high dollar hard covers:

These errors have been blamed on an overworked trade paperback department, one that some consider understaffed since positions were retrenched a number of years ago to cut wasteful working practices. However Joe Quesada told me "Youngquist works his butt off on these trades and a few of the books you're talking about had mistakes from years ago, incorrect and unfair to blame them on Jeff's group. This added to the fact that DC has just as many mistakes in their books, yet no one would dare to write something like this."

Add in that Johnston says Quesada says DC doesn't have to turn a profit, that delays on Marvel books are ok because Watchmen was late, that Jemas made all the errors when it came to Tsunami and other failed publishing tries (actually I liked that Marvel tried something new even if it didn't work out), that the Daredevil: Father miscue is unrealistic expectations from fans who don't understand that being EIC and doing a comic are mutually exclusive (hear that Stan Lee!), the House of M stolen photo still has not been addressed and we see...

...It's never Joe's fault! In fact, I'll go so far as to say that it's the internet's fault! We all know how much he thinks of the people that use it.

Edit to include link to Rich's column. Nice job Rich, good to see you back!

Joe truly doesn't have anything to do with the trade department, he is EIC of new comics, the trades are done by a seperate office.

Siddon · 05-23-2005, 03:37 PM

Bashing Quesada's is sooo two year's ago this year its all about Slott, Kirkman, Claremont, and Vaughn slamming.

DDM · 05-23-2005, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake V

Joe truly doesn't have anything to do with the trade department, he is EIC of new comics, the trades are done by a seperate office.

Joe Quesada approves which books becomes TPB; that is part of his job as Editor-in-Chief. Quesada oversees all publishing departments--including the TPB office. If Quesada does not oversee the TPB department, he's not doing his job.

Jake V · 05-23-2005, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DDM

Joe Quesada approves which books becomes TPB; that is part of his job as Editor-in-Chief. Quesada oversees all publishing departments--including the TPB office. If Quesada does not oversee the TPB department, he's not doing his job.

No, he doesn't. Dan Buckley chooses what comics get traded and in what format, etc. How do I know this? I asked them directly at SDCC and WWLA. Stop arguing about things you don't know anything about.

HartyPotter · 05-23-2005, 11:39 PM

I have never heard ANYONE argue- not even Quesada himself- that the problems were never his fault. I don't understand what the mocking tone of the thread is for. If this thread was to criticize DC, I can understand, because DC rarely receives criticism, but who here actually thinks that Marvel EVER gets by with mistakes without people shoving it in their face?

overcomebyfumes · 05-24-2005, 10:03 PM

Since when is DC a not-for-profit charity organization? I don't understand that statement.

jetter_cheeze · 05-24-2005, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DDM

Joe Quesada approves which books becomes TPB; that is part of his job as Editor-in-Chief. Quesada oversees all publishing departments--including the TPB office. If Quesada does not oversee the TPB department, he's not doing his job.

With everything that Joe is responsible for that you say he is DDM, I'm surprised he has as much time as he has to even consider writing and drawing a comic, and i will even go so far as to applaud him for giving us DD:Father and NYX when he did.

The Shadow · 05-24-2005, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by overcomebyfumes

Since when is DC a not-for-profit charity organization? I don't understand that statement.

Neither do I

StoneGold · 05-24-2005, 11:45 PM

It's not that DC doesn't have to turn a profit, just that they don't have to do it as desperately as Marvel, since they are basically just the superhero licensing arm for Warner Bros. Not saying whether that is true or not, just that's the logic behind the statement.

DOVETAILS · 05-25-2005, 12:07 AM

They should at least offer the missing pages up on marvel.com to be downloaded, or something.

The Shadow · 05-25-2005, 01:11 AM

I don't get trades... what errors are you all talking about?

The Shadow · 05-25-2005, 01:14 AM

Oh... I forgot to mention...

SUPPORT THE MONTHLIES!!!!!!!!!

(without em you don't have the trades)

Loren · 05-25-2005, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Shadow

I don't get trades... what errors are you all talking about?

I'm curious myself. Someone ought to assemble a list of all the trades that Marvel has botched.

I'll start with one that I just finished reading. Daredevil Vol. 11: Golden Age put the captions and word balloons for the first page of #69 also on the LAST page of #69. So the issue's final page makes no sense at all.

Loren

DDM · 05-25-2005, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake V

No, he doesn't. Dan Buckley chooses what comics get traded and in what format, etc. How do I know this? I asked them directly at SDCC and WWLA. Stop arguing about things you don't know anything about.

Does Dan Buckley fix the editorial mistakes in the TPB? No. Joe Quesada does since he is Editor-in-Chief (if the TPB editors miss the mistakes). Joe Quesada & Dan Buckely's jobs intertwine. It is as much Quesada's responsiblity as Dan Buckley's to choose which stories are turned into TPB.

05-23-2005, 03:05 PM	#1
T Rath New Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 47	It's never Joe's fault! From LITG on Marvel's increasing number of errors in collected editions - specifically the high dollar hard covers: These errors have been blamed on an overworked trade paperback department, one that some consider understaffed since positions were retrenched a number of years ago to cut wasteful working practices. However Joe Quesada told me "Youngquist works his butt off on these trades and a few of the books you're talking about had mistakes from years ago, incorrect and unfair to blame them on Jeff's group. This added to the fact that DC has just as many mistakes in their books, yet no one would dare to write something like this." Add in that Johnston says Quesada says DC doesn't have to turn a profit, that delays on Marvel books are ok because Watchmen was late, that Jemas made all the errors when it came to Tsunami and other failed publishing tries (actually I liked that Marvel tried something new even if it didn't work out), that the Daredevil: Father miscue is unrealistic expectations from fans who don't understand that being EIC and doing a comic are mutually exclusive (hear that Stan Lee!), the House of M stolen photo still has not been addressed and we see... ...It's never Joe's fault! In fact, I'll go so far as to say that it's the internet's fault! We all know how much he thinks of the people that use it. Edit to include link to Rich's column. Nice job Rich, good to see you back! Last edited by T Rath; 05-23-2005 at 03:07 PM.

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05-23-2005, 11:39 PM	#6
HartyPotter Ka-POWee! Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 319	I have never heard ANYONE argue- not even Quesada himself- that the problems were never his fault. I don't understand what the mocking tone of the thread is for. If this thread was to criticize DC, I can understand, because DC rarely receives criticism, but who here actually thinks that Marvel EVER gets by with mistakes without people shoving it in their face?

05-25-2005, 12:07 AM	#11
DOVETAILS Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: New York Posts: 116	They should at least offer the missing pages up on marvel.com to be downloaded, or something.

05-25-2005, 01:11 AM	#12
The Shadow Questions lead to answers Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 16,279	I don't get trades... what errors are you all talking about?

05-25-2005, 01:14 AM	#13
The Shadow Questions lead to answers Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 16,279	Oh... I forgot to mention... SUPPORT THE MONTHLIES!!!!!!!!! (without em you don't have the trades)