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west3man · 03-23-2005, 10:44 AM

Does he think B.A.'s not BAD enough? Is he unABLE to do so? Does he secretly like the way that black outfit fits?

west3man · 03-23-2005, 10:45 AM

Hmm. Maybe this should've gone on the JSA forum. I dunno.

LegacyInfTy · 03-23-2005, 11:21 AM

i've wondered about this kind of often myself. Why DOESN'T he just take Adam's powers away?

Forsaken_One · 03-23-2005, 11:25 AM

Could it have something to do with Black Adam getting his powers from different gods? I don't know, both are rather forgotten but the Egyptian gods are a lot more forgotten than the Greco/Roman gods.

Tony Bang · 03-23-2005, 11:45 AM

Maybe Black Adam is too strong. He may only be able to take the powers of those weaker than him.

west3man · 03-23-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony Bang

Maybe Black Adam is too strong. He may only be able to take the powers of those weaker than him.

But if Captain Marvel could snatch the lightning out of Black Adam's arse, shouldn't the wizard be able to??

Stanlos · 03-23-2005, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by west3man

But if Captain Marvel could snatch the lightning out of Black Adam's arse, shouldn't the wizard be able to??

Captain Marvel should NOT be able to arbitrarily take the powers of any other Shazamers except for those with whom he shares (if that's still in)--and that should be when they say Shazam and their powers . . . return to wherever they go when not in use.

west3man · 03-23-2005, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanlos

Captain Marvel should NOT be able to arbitrarily take the powers of any other Shazamers except for those with whom he shares (if that's still in)--and that should be when they say Shazam and their powers . . . return to wherever they go when not in use.

That's how I feel. That's why I started a thread about it on the JLA/JSA board.

They can't have it both ways... not the way I see it.

Ryno · 03-23-2005, 02:00 PM

I swear I remember reading a Shazam comic when I was a small kid(Back in the 70's) and in it it states that Shazam can't remove the power from a person after he's given it to them. So rather than removing Adam's power he banished him to the far side of the galaxy and it took him 1,000's of years to return to Earth.Not sure if this was changed after the revamp in the 80's.

Ray192 · 03-23-2005, 03:23 PM

I remember that in JSA it was mentioned that Shazam could've remove teh power once imbued. And this time Black Adam was put in stasis, not thrown to the other end of the galaxy.

west3man · 03-23-2005, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray192

I remember that in JSA it was mentioned that Shazam could've remove teh power once imbued. And this time Black Adam was put in stasis, not thrown to the other end of the galaxy.

Did you mean "couldn't have"?

Stanlos · 03-24-2005, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryno

I swear I remember reading a Shazam comic when I was a small kid(Back in the 70's) and in it it states that Shazam can't remove the power from a person after he's given it to them. So rather than removing Adam's power he banished him to the far side of the galaxy and it took him 1,000's of years to return to Earth.Not sure if this was changed after the revamp in the 80's.

That would be in line with how divine gifts work. They cannot be removed once granted. They can be twisted (and sometimes darkly) but not taken back. This is from the myths and made it into the DCU with WONDER WOMAN's reboot.

Ray192 · 03-24-2005, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by west3man

Did you mean "couldn't have"?

ughh yeah... :p

davids · 03-24-2005, 02:53 PM

About his great western stage coach! "Mr. Ford wouldn't the indians just shoot the stage coach horses?"

Ford, "They can't do that!"

Reporter, "Why not?"

Ford, "Because it would have been the end of the movie stupid!"

Atomlad · 03-25-2005, 12:36 AM

Forgive me if this has been changed or retconned, but I have been out of comics for 10 years, and am just getting back in.

In Power of SHAZAM, by Jerry Ordway, after fully possessing the thug that killed Billy's parents, BA says that the wizard did take his powers, but they are resident in the scarab necklace, whereas Captain Marvel's come from within. So I guess he took his powers on the sense of separating him from the necklace. He takes away the thug's voice at the end, so he can't say the magic either.

If you think about, the wizard took a big chance- his first guy went bad, but at least he had a way to stop him by taking the necklace. So he makes his second hero without the safety net.

03-23-2005, 10:44 AM	#1
west3man Elder Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 17,728	So, why doesn't Shazam just remove Black Adam's powers? Does he think B.A.'s not BAD enough? Is he unABLE to do so? Does he secretly like the way that black outfit fits? __________________ West's Blog West's Chatroom

03-23-2005, 10:45 AM	#2
west3man Elder Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 17,728	Hmm. Maybe this should've gone on the JSA forum. I dunno. __________________ West's Blog West's Chatroom

03-23-2005, 11:25 AM	#4
Forsaken_One All-Around Geek Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,359	Could it have something to do with Black Adam getting his powers from different gods? I don't know, both are rather forgotten but the Egyptian gods are a lot more forgotten than the Greco/Roman gods. __________________ Remember, only by treating everyone with dignity and respect can we maintain the element of surprise for that inevitable day when we wipe our enemies from the face of the Earth.

03-24-2005, 02:53 PM	#14
davids Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,424	reporters asked the great director John Ford The same type of question About his great western stage coach! "Mr. Ford wouldn't the indians just shoot the stage coach horses?" Ford, "They can't do that!" Reporter, "Why not?" Ford, "Because it would have been the end of the movie stupid!"

03-25-2005, 12:36 AM	#15
Atomlad New Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York Posts: 29	Forgive me if this has been changed or retconned, but I have been out of comics for 10 years, and am just getting back in. In Power of SHAZAM, by Jerry Ordway, after fully possessing the thug that killed Billy's parents, BA says that the wizard did take his powers, but they are resident in the scarab necklace, whereas Captain Marvel's come from within. So I guess he took his powers on the sense of separating him from the necklace. He takes away the thug's voice at the end, so he can't say the magic either. If you think about, the wizard took a big chance- his first guy went bad, but at least he had a way to stop him by taking the necklace. So he makes his second hero without the safety net. Last edited by Atomlad : 03-25-2005 at 12:58 AM.

03-23-2005, 11:21 AM	#3
LegacyInfTy BANNED Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18	i've wondered about this kind of often myself. Why DOESN'T he just take Adam's powers away?

03-23-2005, 11:45 AM	#5
Tony Bang The Rightful Duke Join Date: May 2004 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,173	Maybe Black Adam is too strong. He may only be able to take the powers of those weaker than him.

03-23-2005, 02:00 PM	#9
Ryno New Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 54	I swear I remember reading a Shazam comic when I was a small kid(Back in the 70's) and in it it states that Shazam can't remove the power from a person after he's given it to them. So rather than removing Adam's power he banished him to the far side of the galaxy and it took him 1,000's of years to return to Earth.Not sure if this was changed after the revamp in the 80's.

03-23-2005, 03:23 PM	#10
Ray192 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 197	I remember that in JSA it was mentioned that Shazam could've remove teh power once imbued. And this time Black Adam was put in stasis, not thrown to the other end of the galaxy.

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