[Petition] Get Greg Land off of Uncanny X-Men

[Quinnhop]

[Disclaimer: This is not a personal attack. This is just an expression of our Democratic right to demand what we want of our service providers. Disposable income is a legitimate term for negotiations. Please, CBR Staff, respect that. Doing so does not, in any way, mean you endorse it.]

Operation Zero Tolerance:

Dear Marvel,

We members of Comic Book Resources Forums do not feel that anything about Greg Land makes up for the deplorable quality of his work on Uncanny X-Men. I can provide examples (in fact, I will; later), but even without copy-pasting what he has already copy-pasted, I think that you know what we’re talking about. Our problems include, but are in no way limited to:

- The disgracefully sexual/pornographic overtones of his artwork.
- His absolute inability to capture the essence of even the most classic characters.
- Tracing. Let me say it again. Tra. Cing. TRACING.
- The redundancy and absolute monotony of everything he and his lightbox produce.
- PORN. I repeat: PORN.
- All of his work feels hollow and is absent of any true passion.
- William Blake is rolling in his grave.
- Jack Kirby is rolling his grave.
- My eyes are rolling in their sockets.

Now, let’s provide evidence. Legitimate evidence.

Originally Posted by worstblogever

Tell you what, here's the lightboxed or photoshopped Land stuff that appears within the same page:

• Page 3, panel #1 and #2 (X-23 and Armor stand still while Chimera's dragons move in, getting larger)
• Page 10, panel #4 and #5 (Other than Cyclops head changing, and Emma appearing, Cyke's nightmare is identical in both panels.
• Page 15, panel #1- (repeated Cuckoo image in triplicate).
• Page 15, panel #2- (repeated Cuckoo image in triplicate). Yes, he copied them times three, two panels in a row.
• Page 16, panel #4- (repeated Cuckoo image in triplicate). Uh huh. Again.
• Page 20, panel #1- (repeated Cuckoo image in triplicate). One more time, appreciate the brilliance of his laziness!
• Page 21, panel 2 and panel 4. (Maybe if we interrupt with one panel in between the duplicate Wolverine panels, no one will notice.)
• Page 24, panel 2 and 4. (That's the key! The third panel will conceal any shortcutting!)

Eight times, that are blatant. There may be more (some of the Cuckoos images at least use different sizes. So about every third page, he's just lightboxing, or photoshopping his own panel. What, switching on and off every four months with the Dodsons isn't giving you enough time to churn out an issue, that you have to resort to this? :rolleyes:

And for the record, Nightcrawler sitting up... doesn't his facial expression look remarkably like this famous image, of the chap on the left, reverse imaged?

Alright, that’s enough. Anyone else who joins the thread can provide any other images that they know of. A quick search on Google Images will turn up a lot more, I’m sure. I mean, these are all the first things that pop up when you search “Greg Land.” No joke.

I mean, Marvel, I’m not even an upcoming artist or anything and this upsets me. I draw stick figures, for chrissake, but I know low quality artwork when I see it.

That all said, let it be known, this is not a personal attack on Mr. Greg Land. I have nothing against him. Hell, I don’t even care if the powers that be look the other way and keep him employed. But, what I do want out of this is for Greg Land to be taken off of Uncanny X-Men. Dodson’s work is wonderful. Land’s just isn’t up to par. It might be if he actually put some work into it, but… Whatever.

Just get him off of Uncanny.

Sincerely,

CBR Members Against Land

[worstblogever]

I think another artist does deserve the chance to get the gig on Uncanny X-Men, in Land's place.

This is just... for lack of better terms...

Lazy. Uninspired.

There are pencilers who'd give their eyed-teeth to put out eye-popping visuals, that could meet deadlines, particularly when alternating with Land. They deserve a chance to have the gig, and as a fan, I know I would appreciate getting higher quality visuals for my dollar. It'd help the story immensely, as well.

[Michael P]

An Internet Petition! Those always work!

[Maestro]

oh shut your yap and stop whining

[worstblogever]

Originally Posted by Michael P

An Internet Petition! Those always work!

Let whomever rant and feel better.

But really, not buying the issue, and making it clear why, are the only true ways to solve the issue.

[justinkos91]

I always thought the Red Queen looked a bit like Charisma Carpenter...

[DeadXMan]

re-write it as without the snark and the homosexual community comment, you'll might get farther

Also didn't limit yourself to the net
Take it to your LCS ( all of them if your more then one)

see if the owners might consider ordering less UXM when Land is on the title( long shot but hey nothing venture, nothing gained)

and don't email it
find the adresses of Joe, Land, Fraction, Marvel's Office. Dan's print shop
Stan Lee, Alex, and Avi's.

if they see pages of people actually singed thier names. with copies of Land's work. they will get the picture.

[Quinnhop]

Oh, I don't know if I care THAT much. I'll just stop buying it when Land's on art and hope others follow suit. This is just a chance for other people on CBR to express their distaste. Anyone outside of CBR can do it...outside of CBR.

But thank you for the advice. Seriously. I'll edit it up a bit.

[Slant]

oh man i didn't know he traced!

[mythog]

Sorry to say this but marvel doesn't care, people have complained before and nothing happened. All they do is defend him.

[wolvie616]

you have my signature

Wolvie616

[worstblogever]

The LITG forum does have a Land: Swipe File thread on it, dedicated to this sort of thing.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com...31#post8963331

[Hakael]

I don't see how Marvel can honestly let this pass on a flagship title to one of their largest franchises. There is no excuse for Land's Uncanny work, the sad thing is I'm sure Mr. Land has actual talent, I don't know why Marvel doesn't encourage him to put away the light box and go back to drawing for a living.

Bottom line, start drawing or GTFO.

[DeadXMan]

Originally Posted by Quinnhop

Oh, I don't know if I care THAT much. I'll just stop buying it when Land's on art and hope others follow suit. This is just a chance for other people on CBR to express their distaste. Anyone outside of CBR can do it...outside of CBR.

But thank you for the advice. Seriously. I'll edit it up a bit.

Then why bring it up? This is probably the union carpenter talking, but if your not willing to go all the way with this, don't waste our time, or CBR's servers space with half ass jesters.

what I just told you is how the fans got Clone saga reversed.

[worstblogever]

Originally Posted by DeadXMan

Then why bring it up? This is probably the union carpenter talking, but if your not willing to go all the way with this, don't waste our time, or CBR's servers space with half ass jesters.

what I just told you is how the fans got Clone saga reversed.

A fifteen year old strategy?