Frieza Empire vs 90's Marvel Earth

[Gumbo Maximillian]

Frieza of animated DBZ fame.

This is his basic empire; so presume that earth was just picked practically at Random as one of the galaxies planets to conquer and exploit at will.

So while Frieza does have his various right hand minions, Zarbon, Dodoria, Ginyu Force, whoever I'm not thinking of.

Plus his basic army of guys in armor with their guns etc.....

The invasion will come in the form of waves; the first will be the weakest of this general force and with no knowledge whatsoever really of this planet.

Its just there.

As time goes on; its safe to assume they will learn more with each new wave and each wave is more powerful than the last one but the most powerful will be safed until the end.

Its 90's marvel earth so its a composite of the cartoons:

Fantastic Four
Iron Man
Incredible Hulk
Spider-Man
X-men
Avengers United

So this includes the villains, organizations etc....alien races can be considered as potentially involved but only if it makes sense that they would want to do so in a scenario like this.

Its not just Freiza's empire versus "all" of the 90's marvel universe, cosmic space empires, galactus etc....

Basically only as would be logical to really include them into this should an alien empire or space god get brought into the debate.

[Howard Allan]

Originally Posted by Gumbo Maximillian

Frieza of animated DBZ fame.

This is his basic empire; so presume that earth was just picked practically at Random as one of the galaxies planets to conquer and exploit at will.

So while Frieza does have his various right hand minions, Zarbon, Dodoria, Ginyu Force, whoever I'm not thinking of.

Plus his basic army of guys in armor with their guns etc.....

The invasion will come in the form of waves; the first will be the weakest of this general force and with no knowledge whatsoever really of this planet.

Its just there.

As time goes on; its safe to assume they will learn more with each new wave and each wave is more powerful than the last one but the most powerful will be safed until the end.

Its 90's marvel earth so its a composite of the cartoons:

Fantastic Four
Iron Man
Incredible Hulk
Spider-Man
X-men
Avengers United

So this includes the villains, organizations etc....alien races can be considered as potentially involved but only if it makes sense that they would want to do so in a scenario like this.

Its not just Freiza's empire versus "all" of the 90's marvel universe, cosmic space empires, galactus etc....

Basically only as would be logical to really include them into this should an alien empire or space god get brought into the debate.

This means the Shiar empire gets involved because of Lilandra & Charles Xavier. Frieza is so boned. Not to mention that when Black Tom goes down in the battles (and He will), they're going to have a severely pissed Juggernaut on their asses ripping them new ones and that's just the least of it. When Reed & Doom start pulling out the heavy hardware, Frieza and his gang are going to wish they'd stayed at home knitting. Actually if you want the truth it only takes 2 words for marvel earth to win. "Oh Norrin."

[Surtur]

I'm sort of confused, is this a composite of the marvel cartoons, plus the comic marvel earth? Or just the cartoons?

Anyways, Juggernaut really isn't a threat to any of the more powerful guys, due to their speed, they can just grab him, fly him up at super speed and ringout him.

If this is just the cartoon marvel universe..I don't see how they could put Frieza himself down if it came to that. If it's comic marvel earth they can put him down though, but there will be casualties I'd imagine.

[1505627]

with their tenacity,the marvel heroes should be able to hold them off for a long time...or until frieza gets bored and blows them to space hell

[Howard Allan]

Just cartoon marvel. Anyway Marvel has to many ultra High enders for Freiza to even hope for a victory. Silver surfer takes it by hinself. If not him they have the Phoenix. You can't tell me that a being that consumes stars for lunch has any trouble with anything Freiza could throw at her. and as I mentioned before, the Shiar empire will get dragged into this and that means the praetorian guard which is marvels version of the legion of superheroes. Gladiator by himself does major damage to anything Freiza can come up with, the other take out his lightweight like they aren't even there. Mimic showed up in the X-Men cartoon, he can copy powers of the other side. You've got Hulk,Abomination, the leader etc. Just way to much for Freiza.

[Radioactive Zombie]

Since it's the cartoons, their durability is a bit less, right? However, Xavier could mind rape, provided Frieza has no such defenses, or Gladiator could come down and throw him.

[Howard Allan]

Originally Posted by Radioactive Zombie

Since it's the cartoons, their durability is a bit less, right? However, Xavier could mind rape, provided Frieza has no such defenses, or Gladiator could come down and throw him.

Like I said, They Have Phoenix. No one else is needed. All the rest of earths heroes sit back and have a picnic while she takes them all out. and her durability is equal to comics durability.

[Gumbo Maximillian]

Actually the phoenix is part of the crystal now isn't she?

They got Jean Grey but there's a world of difference in the toon' between Jean Grey and The Phoenix.

Also sans eating suns; Phoenix wasn't as powerful and had nowhere near the stamina, throwing Gladiator out of the atmosphere really drained her if I remember and then taking the X-men (can't remember if it was the moon or the Shi-ar empire, may actually be thinking of two different instances) drained her to the point of being useless basically.

So unless Phoenix goes Dark Phoenix mode here, her usefulness really drops here.

Either way I'm not sure its enough for The Phoenix to feel the need to get involved.

As for the Shi'ar empire; they get involved but what do we really know about them?

I wasn't that impressed with their robots and general technologies.....they have space ships that can go FTL with some offensive capabilities but nothing that seemed to impressive nor do we know how many they have or even the general size of their Empire to be honest.

They have the imperial guard which helps but most weren't that impressive. A few were decent though, Gladiator to make a name.

Though he ended up a Rogue level opponent.....thats still a Rogue level opponent with Super breathe, FTL space flight and eye beams that could one shot a rogue level entity.

Prof. X wasn't nearly as impressive in the toons, he needed cerebro just to create a mental illusion for maybe fifty soldiers in the "cold comfort" episode.

And it was just a big brood, alien looking creature, nothing really complex or scenario involving or anything.

And the cartoon version of the brood were for some reason just totally resistant to his abilities, he couldn't read their minds at all and it was something that was just innate, no effort required on their part to do so.

Did Mimic show up? I know Morph did but I don't recall Mimic doing so but I could be wrong.

As for general durability in the cartoons, oh yeah, way lower than the comics.

As a whole I would say power levels are generally lower here.

I think there are some weakness for cartoon-90's marvel earth here as a whole.

A.) Most of their heavy hitters are in one concentrated area, not all but most.

B.) No real organization going on among the heroes as a whole.

C.) Lack a comparable ruthlessness, even the villains didn't quite seem as out and out brutal as Frieza's goons and fighters.

Someone like Sabretooth is relatively uncommon inregards to out and out viciousness and amorality in the 90's marvel toon verse, thats like every single soldier in Freiza's army in comparison.