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CMBMOOL · 11-26-2008, 12:16 PM

Well Herc fans spoilers:

it seems that Hercules is in big trouble concerning other gods of Olympus

end of spoilers, but I let these scans tell you the story....http://community.livejournal.com/sca...y/6647466.html

Soundrave · 11-26-2008, 12:34 PM

Awesome issue!!

Who was on that last page with Hera?

I'd guess Typhon and Echidna, but Typhon is a titan and Echidna is a monster -- neither are "true Olympians" under Hera's definition (Herc is half god/half mortal and Athena is half god/half titan, and Hera disqualifies them as "true Olympians").

**Expletive Deleted** · 11-26-2008, 01:20 PM

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Who was on that last page with Hera?

I'm guessing it's Argus (Hera's hundred-eyed servant) and some version of the Hydra.

Gordon Smith · 11-26-2008, 01:36 PM

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I'm guessing it's Argus (Hera's hundred-eyed servant) and some version of the Hydra.

This character appears to be blind. Therefore, I'm thinking it's Ploutos, the blind god of wealth in classical myth. He distributed wealth and fortune indiscriminately to the deserving and undeserving. It would make a certain amount of sense for him to be involved in a scenario where the gods of myth are involved in supernatural corporate shenanigans. Also, since Ploutos was blinded by Zeus, he'd probably be inclined to hold a grudge over that and tend to gravitate towards Hera as an ally.

**Expletive Deleted** · 11-26-2008, 01:49 PM

It's certainly possible. I don't know if white eyes necessarly correspond to blind, though, since Pluto has them, too.

Gordon Smith · 11-26-2008, 01:57 PM

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It's certainly possible. I don't know if white eyes necessarly correspond to blind, though, since Pluto has them, too.

I didn't notice that Pluto/Hades had white eyes as well. That's a good point. If it isn't Ploutos, I have no idea who it could be, but I'm not inclined to think it's Argus.

**Expletive Deleted** · 11-26-2008, 02:06 PM

It certainly doesn't look like Argus in terms of his traditional depiction. I was just thinking it might be him because he's Hera's most notable henchman.

On another topic, anyone want to bet on Delphyne surviving? She seems too cool to kill off so quickly.

The Confessor · 11-26-2008, 03:05 PM

I don't read this title but I just checked out those scans (mainly to see if this issue was connected to Secret Invasion at all) and I've gotta say "Urrrggghhhh..." at these panels...

I mean, she looks kinds hot for a snake-woman (especially in the little plaid skirt) but lets not forget that it would be like kissing a snake! Now, I realise that snakes aren't slimy but still...kissing one wouldn't do much for me personally.

CaptainCanada · 11-26-2008, 03:31 PM

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On another topic, anyone want to bet on Delphyne surviving? She seems too cool to kill off so quickly.

Since Artume just left her floating there, seemingly, I'll be very surprised if she doesn't survive.

CyberHubbs · 11-26-2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Confessor

I don't read this title but I just checked out those scans (mainly to see if this issue was connected to Secret Invasion at all) and I've gotta say "Urrrggghhhh..." at these panels...

I mean, she looks kinds hot for a snake-woman (especially in the little plaid skirt) but lets not forget that it would be like kissing a snake! Now, I realise that snakes aren't slimy but still...kissing one wouldn't do much for me personally.

Cho is gettin' some, even if it is a naughty schoolgirl Medusa. Don't be hatin'!

BobfromHR · 11-26-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberHubbs

Cho is gettin' some, even if it is a naughty schoolgirl Medusa. Don't be hatin'!

Truth.........

DeadXMan · 11-26-2008, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberHubbs

Cho is gettin' some, even if it is a naughty schoolgirl Medusa. Don't be hatin'!

damn straight. Hopefully Artume's aim was off.

if it wasn't, why dose Pak introduce kick ass females just to kill them off?

CaptainCanada · 11-26-2008, 05:27 PM

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if it wasn't, why dose Pak introduce kick ass females just to kill them off?

Well, he did save Athena from VL's nefarious original plan, so credit him that.

seekquaze · 11-26-2008, 05:30 PM

I don't have the issues in front of me at the moment so pleas forgive any spelling mistakes.

Incredible Hercules #123

Starting off where the last one left off our heroes quickly rescue Poseidon, god of the seas. Poseidon informs Herc and co. of what the Amazons are up to with a brief history lesson. It was some metaphyical stuff I am still trying to figure out. I understood the part about Atlas being at the center of the world and the history of the Amazons and Atlantis. Apparently, to ensure Atlantis was always the center of the world (metaphorical speaking) Atlantian sorcerers took power from the actual Axis Mundia and put it in a stone. After Atlantis sank they used that power to transform the Atlanteans into fish people. Now, the Amazons what it to make themselves the center of the world.

Neptune orders Namor to take him back to Atlantis for his wounds to heal and tells Hercules and Namora to pursue the Amazons. They call Athena up to find a way to track the Amazons. That can't be done since they are in the fasterst Atlantean craft and will be at the stone befor first, but to use it they have to be at the Axis Mundia. Currently located in Washington D. C. since that is where the power of the world is located. I imagine past ones would have been London and Rome just for a few possible examples.

Meanwhile Cho is still being kept around and steamed about the betrayal. Daphne the Gorgon reveals that she was/is infatuated with him and that is why she had tried to help him. The Amazons reach the stone, but...let's just say anyone hoping Daphne becoming a permanent cast member may be soleley disappointed.

To complicate an already complicated situation if anybody remembers two issues ago Hippolyta was trying to recruit Ares in another scheme to destroy Hercules. Well, the end of this issue follows up on it. We find out what happened to the rest of the Olympians and Hera is up to her old tricks again.

Overall, a solid issue. Not quite the humor or epic feels of past issues, but there was nothing in particular wrong with it as a whole.

The end was a nice nod to past events from the Incredible Hercules miniseries by acknowledging the Olympian group, the corporation Zeus established on Earth. It also showed that sometimes the devil you know is better than the devil you don't. Zeus was cranky, short-tempered, an adulterer, and paranoid, but at the same time he kept his family in check. Mostly because otherwise would have risked them overthrowing him, but he kept them on their leashes. Now, with him dead we are seeing the consequences of the darker aspects of the Olympian family having nothing to really restrain them anymore.

One issue I did not like was the reasoning for Poseidon's lack of power. It was flimsy at best. Poseidon claims his powers are weakened due the destruction caused in the Olympian home dimension, but his powers are the only one that appear to be affected. Ares, Athena, Hercules, and Hera all appear to be fine. I understand that Pak and Lente may have needed to get him out of the way, but it put a damper on the issue and seemed to be forced which Pak has done in the past to get around power problems.

Artwise I didn't see anything wrong with it. Clayton was able to carry the more serious aspects of this issue. Coloring worked as well.

Overall: I give the issue 6/10. Decent, but not the best.

drwho · 11-26-2008, 05:38 PM

I love the whole use of so much mythology and mixing it up to make entertaining Marvel stories.

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11-26-2008, 12:34 PM	#2
Soundrave Member / Bon Vivant Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,158	Awesome issue!! Who was on that last page with Hera? I'd guess Typhon and Echidna, but Typhon is a titan and Echidna is a monster -- neither are "true Olympians" under Hera's definition (Herc is half god/half mortal and Athena is half god/half titan, and Hera disqualifies them as "true Olympians").

11-26-2008, 05:30 PM	#14
seekquaze Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 488	I don't have the issues in front of me at the moment so pleas forgive any spelling mistakes. Incredible Hercules #123 Starting off where the last one left off our heroes quickly rescue Poseidon, god of the seas. Poseidon informs Herc and co. of what the Amazons are up to with a brief history lesson. It was some metaphyical stuff I am still trying to figure out. I understood the part about Atlas being at the center of the world and the history of the Amazons and Atlantis. Apparently, to ensure Atlantis was always the center of the world (metaphorical speaking) Atlantian sorcerers took power from the actual Axis Mundia and put it in a stone. After Atlantis sank they used that power to transform the Atlanteans into fish people. Now, the Amazons what it to make themselves the center of the world. Neptune orders Namor to take him back to Atlantis for his wounds to heal and tells Hercules and Namora to pursue the Amazons. They call Athena up to find a way to track the Amazons. That can't be done since they are in the fasterst Atlantean craft and will be at the stone befor first, but to use it they have to be at the Axis Mundia. Currently located in Washington D. C. since that is where the power of the world is located. I imagine past ones would have been London and Rome just for a few possible examples. Meanwhile Cho is still being kept around and steamed about the betrayal. Daphne the Gorgon reveals that she was/is infatuated with him and that is why she had tried to help him. The Amazons reach the stone, but...let's just say anyone hoping Daphne becoming a permanent cast member may be soleley disappointed. To complicate an already complicated situation if anybody remembers two issues ago Hippolyta was trying to recruit Ares in another scheme to destroy Hercules. Well, the end of this issue follows up on it. We find out what happened to the rest of the Olympians and Hera is up to her old tricks again. Overall, a solid issue. Not quite the humor or epic feels of past issues, but there was nothing in particular wrong with it as a whole. The end was a nice nod to past events from the Incredible Hercules miniseries by acknowledging the Olympian group, the corporation Zeus established on Earth. It also showed that sometimes the devil you know is better than the devil you don't. Zeus was cranky, short-tempered, an adulterer, and paranoid, but at the same time he kept his family in check. Mostly because otherwise would have risked them overthrowing him, but he kept them on their leashes. Now, with him dead we are seeing the consequences of the darker aspects of the Olympian family having nothing to really restrain them anymore. One issue I did not like was the reasoning for Poseidon's lack of power. It was flimsy at best. Poseidon claims his powers are weakened due the destruction caused in the Olympian home dimension, but his powers are the only one that appear to be affected. Ares, Athena, Hercules, and Hera all appear to be fine. I understand that Pak and Lente may have needed to get him out of the way, but it put a damper on the issue and seemed to be forced which Pak has done in the past to get around power problems. Artwise I didn't see anything wrong with it. Clayton was able to carry the more serious aspects of this issue. Coloring worked as well. Overall: I give the issue 6/10. Decent, but not the best.