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Old 01-17-2008, 04:01 PM   #1
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Since we now know that Cyclops reforms the X-force team after the events of the Messiah complex without any of the other X-men knowing about, but does that make him a hypocrite for being mad at Xaiver,when he's doing the exact same thing ? :(
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:03 PM   #2
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Not so much for that but for the fact he reforms X-force to be a kill squad to take out enemies permanently and then having the gall to pretend to be the heir of Xavier's dream at the same time.
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:05 PM   #3
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and an adulterer
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And Emma dresses him funny. In fact, she dresses the whole team funny. :p
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I dont think so. They're different things really. Cyclops is using X-Force as a team of assasins to take out enemies. Xavier did horrible things TO the X-Men, and then kept it secret. Cyke isnt hurting his teammates with this one.
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I dont think so. They're different things really. Cyclops is using X-Force as a team of assasins to take out enemies. Xavier did horrible things TO the X-Men, and then kept it secret. Cyke isnt hurting his teammates with this one.
Well, what he did to Madrox and, consequently, Layla was shit and definitely makes him a hypocrite.
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Well, what he did to Madrox and, consequently, Layla was shit and definitely makes him a hypocrite.
Ooooh, I forgot about that. Yeah, that was a low blow.

But technically, he didnt plan on sending Layla. She did that all by herself. But what he did to Jamie was terrible.

So for THAT yes, he's a hypocrite. But not for forming X-Force.
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:20 PM   #8
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But technically, he didnt plan on sending Layla. She did that all by herself. But what he did to Jamie was terrible.
That's why I said consequently. Had they been fully aware of what Cyclops had planned, Layla may not have made that jump because Madrox may not have gone through with it.
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He isn't a hypocrite, I don't think he's upset that Charles Xavier decided to risk the lives of team 1.5 but rather make everyone forget it ever happened. And Cyclops hasn't done that.


And Layla probably knew what she was getting into, which just shows how kickass she is.
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And Layla probably knew what she was getting into, which just shows how kickass she is.
Yeah, Layla would've gone through with it, but that doesn't mean Jamie would've. Without a dupe, there'd have been no reason for Layla to go.
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I always wondered about Cyclops... does he actually have the authority to kick Xavier out of the school? He seems to be pretty quick at showing Xavier the door, but doesn't Xavier actually own the school?

Or did Scott and Emma buy it at one point or something? If that's not the case, then it seems to be that Xaiver should be able to stay there whenever he dam well pleases.
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Yeah, Layla would've gone through with it, but that doesn't mean Jamie would've. Without a dupe, there'd have been no reason for Layla to go.
I dunno, Madrox only seemed concerned about Layla and not his dupes once he found out, I think he would have gone through with it knowing. Regardless Cyclops decided not to tell him so the whatifs don't really matter. That was a dick move on his part.

Xaviers dick moves are a different nature though. When Madrox wakes up if he wanted to he could go and beat Cyclops up. Cyclops is taking responsibility for his decisions. Xavier just mindwiped everyone.
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I always wondered about Cyclops... does he actually have the authority to kick Xavier out of the school? He seems to be pretty quick at showing Xavier the door, but doesn't Xavier actually own the school?

Or did Scott and Emma buy it at one point or something? If that's not the case, then it seems to be that Xaiver should be able to stay there whenever he dam well pleases.
Xavier still owns the property, which makes Scott's behavior even more absurd.
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Xavier and Cyclops have both been turds at some point, especially Xavier with the whole mind swipe of a brother thing, but because of their dedication, they have been allowed to remain in the X-fold. let's see if the same solicitousness and courtesy is extended to Bishop, who as of now, is looking like the turd of 2008.
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Xavier still owns the property, which makes Scott's behavior even more absurd.
Didn't Emma bought the school after "here comes tomorrow"?
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