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Old 01-16-2008, 04:40 PM   #1
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Default My little Wolverine Origins #21 review *spoilers*

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The Dislikes- Wade in his old kill-suit. Seein Logan put a boxing lesson on Wade, Deadpool is a master ninja, that shouldnt happen. I can understand if he got clawed up, but Wade doesn't lose in hand to hand ass whooping showdowns. And it's kind of weird to see Deadpool goin after an X-Man so soon, since right now he's tryin to be a somewhat of a good guy. But I don't even know if this story is suppose to be in Wolverines past or if it's happening in real-comic time. You know? As for Deadpool's hallucinations, lol some funny s#$% (wich is why I should also add this to one of the positive things about this issue) but are the hallucinations just Deadpool being Deadpool? Or has someone f#$%ed with his head again thats forcin him to do this? Like when he got brain-f*cked to kill baby Cable in Cable and Deadpool? Deadpool kinda looked like a grandpa freddy krueger, but I can really live with that, now I'm just nitpicking..

The f#@$ing awesome- Wade and his use of ninja-stars with explosives in em, Wade and his use of grenades, Wade and his use of Turkey-Bombs. That was some of most brutal and awesome scenarios ever. That s#$% rocked so f#$%ing hard, that pieces of paint were chipping off my bedroom walls and roof while I was reading that. And of course Wade payin some construction workers to drop a Piano on Wolverines head. Deadpool hallucinating Wolverine as a scared little man with a tiny, tinsy, little cowboy hat on. lol I love it..good stuff. And they curse in this book, that's pretty f$#%in awesome. I mean they censor it with this "$#%" but I mean, you still know what they're saying. Foul mouths are always awesome, and since Deadpool is a bad ass and is awesome, I can see him enjoying a few F-Bombs, a few shiezers, and what not. Nothin to excessive, but you know, Deadpool is a bad ass ninja mercenary. You know, I always imagined Weasel would be a potty mouth. Anyways let me see, what else...Yeah I think that about does it. Wasn't as bad as I thought it was gonna be.

Things I'd hope to see in Way/Dillion's Deadpool- Brutal sword and gun action. Deadpool drawn in his modern kill-suit, ninja hoody with his harness and all. Some swift martial arts. More use of explosions, havent really seen him use his nades and C4 since the first Cable and Deadpool and in that scene where he blew up the Great Lake Avengers. But yeah, would be pretty sweet to see this, pretty awesome indeed.

All in all I can't wait to place my order for Deadpool's solo series.
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:59 PM   #2
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The costume change isn't such a big deal. I did kind of enjoy this issue. Way's Deadpool is way off (ha ha) on the dialogue, but I thought the elevator scene was quite humorous.

And Wolverine should never ever ever ever be able to beat Deadpool in a fight. He kind of pulled it off convincingly this time though, but just barely.

The ish pales in comparison to today's C&DP though, who'd debate that really?

I think Way has a thing for his mercenaries ditching there costumes and assaulting medical personnel. This strikes a familiar twang with me in Punisher VS Bullseye.
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:01 PM   #3
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Anything in there about Bob or Agency X?
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I hope this isn't how Way is going to write Deadpool in the ongoing. It felt all wrong to me. But then again I did read this after reading Cable and Deadpool 49.
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:21 PM   #5
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The costume change isn't such a big deal.
lol See, to me the costume is a huge deal. The more cool and modern Wade looks the more cool visual-character he has for me.

As for Way's dialouge, it's no Fabian, and yeah, some of it seemed off, but when I went back to read all of Deadpool's solo books, I remember I had to deal with some of the crappier of writters. So I got use to seein the book being tipped on it's side between issues. It sucked, but I can remember goin through issues that were worse then this. But yeah, it's gonna be weird seein Deadpool without Fabian. Hopefully what it lacks in humor, will be made up for in beat downs and all out ninja mercenary madness.

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Old 01-16-2008, 05:35 PM   #6
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lol See, to me the costume is a huge deal. The more cool and modern Wade looks the more cool visual-character he has for me.

As for Way's dialouge, it's no Fabian, and yeah, some of it seemed off, but when I went back to read all of Deadpool's solo books, I remember I had to deal with some of the crappier of writters. So I got use to seein the book being tipped on it's side between issues. It sucked, but I can remember goin through issues that were worse then this. But yeah, it's gonna be weird seein Deadpool without Fabian. Hopefully what it lacks in humor, will be made up for in beat downs and all out ninja mercenary madness.
Deadpool's had that classic costume forever, and the new on doesn't really deviate too much from it. A pair of tweaks down the road, first with Zircher, then with Reilly Brown.

IMO, Deadpool's only had one crappy writer, and that was Palmiotti. And even he had a better grip on the dialogue than Way.

Everybody else was pure awesome, really. The Priest run holds a special place in my heart, specifically.

I don't read Deadpool for the all-out-balls-to-the-wall ninja action. I read it for the quips and jokes and 4th wall breaks. It's what made him better than your generic 90's anti-hero.
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:39 PM   #7
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And Wolverine should never ever ever ever be able to beat Deadpool in a fight. He kind of pulled it off convincingly this time though, but just barely.
Ha's, that's a great line. Deadpool should never be able to beat Wolverine. Deadpool is all but a failed attempt at re-creating the original. It's funny someone would even think that Deadpool is Wolverine's equal.

All in all, the was a pretty terrible issue, I mean what was the story? Just a waste of comic space...and Dillon I think pulled off the impossible, he made a maskless Wade Wilson STILL look like everyone else...that's pretty impressive I guess
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:45 PM   #8
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Ha's, that's a great line. Deadpool should never be able to beat Wolverine. Deadpool is all but a failed attempt at re-creating the original. It's funny someone would even think that Deadpool is Wolverine's equal.

All in all, the was a pretty terrible issue, I mean what was the story? Just a waste of comic space...and Dillon I think pulled off the impossible, he made a maskless Wade Wilson STILL look like everyone else...that's pretty impressive I guess
That's actually not all that much of an exaggeration.

You've clearly not read Wolverine #88, Deadpool #27, or any other issue where they've fought before. Deadpool has proven a half-dozen times that he's Wolverine's superior in combat. In fact, DP made him look like a joke on the above pair of occasions.

But that's neither here nor there.
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ugh not feeling Way's Deadpool too much. Got a few chuckles, but then he went completely looney toons. It's especially noticeable when the latest Fabian issue comes out the same day.

The action wasn't bad, really when it comes to Wolvie/Deadpool fights they're generally close with Deadpool getting the win more often than not, so nothing ooc here.
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That's actually not all that much of an exaggeration.

You've clearly not read Wolverine #88, Deadpool #27, or any other issue where they've fought before. Deadpool has proven a half-dozen times that he's Wolverine's superior in combat. In fact, DP made him look like a joke on the above pair of occasions.

But that's neither here nor there.
In Deadpool #27, I remember Wolverine having the one up on Deadpool, sure Deadpool battles a little more erratic, doesn't make him better. So yeah, Deadpool didn't come out of that fight the victor.

And in Wolverine #88, Wolverine was without his healing factor and still fought Wade pretty evenly until Wad got him with two swords through the lungs. I wouldn't really say that should be your basis for the ridiculous claim that Logan can never beat Wade.

And in the more recent showdown in Cable/Deadpool featuring Wolverine, Wolverine pretty handily took down Deadpool...

So maybe you should re-read the issues your citing.
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Deadpool's had that classic costume forever, and the new on doesn't really deviate too much from it. A pair of tweaks down the road, first with Zircher, then with Reilly Brown.

IMO, Deadpool's only had one crappy writer, and that was Palmiotti. And even he had a better grip on the dialogue than Way.

Everybody else was pure awesome, really. The Priest run holds a special place in my heart, specifically.

I don't read Deadpool for the all-out-balls-to-the-wall ninja action. I read it for the quips and jokes and 4th wall breaks. It's what made him better than your generic 90's anti-hero.
Those tweaks did wonders if you ask me. Udon gave him that first sleek look, they even managed to make Taskmaster look like a bad ass merc too, and that says alot. I mean Tasky looked like skeletor from He-Man before Udon got ahold of him. Plus Tasky has one of the coolest abilities in the entire Marvel Universe....and the whole time they had him lookin like a haunted mid-evil dungon guard or some s#$%. He looked like he belonged in Lord of the Rings or somthing. If it wasn't for that Udon mini-series, I would give 2 s#$%'s about Taskmaster lol.

But Udon made Deadpool visual goodness, Zircher made him a visual god, and even Lim and Johnson gave him a bad ass modern look while Reilly hands down has the most original Deadpool ever.

lol But yeah, we're opposite Deadpool fans. I love a cool lookin Wade doin acrobatic kill moves and I love him blowin s#$% up while bein a smart ass and funny about it. I like him showin his strategic abilities and his observations as a soldier. I was takin a dump a couple days ago, was reading the Civil War C&D, and Fabian gave a good example in a panel where Deadpool's narrative said, "Cable's jaw unclinches a little bit, now lets see if thats a good thing or a bad thing." - Little s#$% like that, that shows that Wade isn't just a goofy guy with guns. But a Merc that even at times he may seem stupid, he does pay attention to detail and the little things when in battle. Little shit like that blows my mind, and makes me love the character. Like when Taskmaster was fleeing from Ironman, Tasky knew he couldn't beat Ironman, so Tasky shot a security guard between vital organs, made Ironman think the innocent dude was gonna die, and said "You can either help the guard, or try to capture me."....Tasky escaped. B-A-D A-S-S.

All in all, I like Deadpool as what he's suppose to be, a soldier. Whether he's a mercenary, gettin hired by good or bad guys, or when he's threatening the innocent when he is out numbered or over powered etc etc lol, I love my Deadpool just like that. Or even if he's gettin turned into a good guy I'm ok with that now, just aslong as he doesn't stop kickin mega-ass and makin jokes.
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In Deadpool #27, I remember Wolverine having the one up on Deadpool, sure Deadpool battles a little more erratic, doesn't make him better. So yeah, Deadpool didn't come out of that fight the victor.

And in Wolverine #88, Wolverine was without his healing factor and still fought Wade pretty evenly until Wad got him with two swords through the lungs. I wouldn't really say that should be your basis for the ridiculous claim that Logan can never beat Wade.

And in the more recent showdown in Cable/Deadpool featuring Wolverine, Wolverine pretty handily took down Deadpool...

So maybe you should re-read the issues your citing.
To be fair in issue 27 Deadpool was kind of having a serious psychotic episode, I mean serious even for him, and he was still giving a good fight...till he got distracted...
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Ha's, that's a great line. Deadpool should never be able to beat Wolverine. Deadpool is all but a failed attempt at re-creating the original. It's funny someone would even think that Deadpool is Wolverine's equal.

All in all, the was a pretty terrible issue, I mean what was the story? Just a waste of comic space...and Dillon I think pulled off the impossible, he made a maskless Wade Wilson STILL look like everyone else...that's pretty impressive I guess
Deadpool should be able to, and he can lol. But since Wolverine is like Marvel's version of superman...It probably won't happen that often. Now I don't think they can kill eachother, but they can make eachother bleed enough to escape or to get what it is they want.

A few clips from a couple sub-machine guns from a distance, a couple explosive traps, a few grenade tosses later, a couple throwing knives, finish it up with a couple pokes with simultaneous katanas, and bam! Wolvie is down for the count. ;)
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Deadpool should be able to, and he can lol. But since Wolverine is like Marvel's version of superman...It probably won't happen that often. Now I don't think they can kill eachother, but they can make eachother bleed enough to escape or to get what it is they want.

A few clips from a couple sub-machine guns from a distance, a couple explosive traps, a few grenade tosses later, a couple throwing knives, finish it up with a couple pokes with simultaneous katanas, and bam! Wolvie is down for the count. ;)

And yet you think Deadpool is the only character with the abilities to play at that level?
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To be fair in issue 27 Deadpool was kind of having a serious psychotic episode, I mean serious even for him, and he was still giving a good fight...till he got distracted...
Yet people are citing Wolverine #88, where Wolverine was w/o his mutant ability that Wade inherits? He still gave Deadpool a good fight, metal less and healing factor less.

Lets be fair here, can't have one w/o the other. Deadpool will always be a crazy lunatic, so for me that's normal fighting style.
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