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Shaman from Serbia · 10-21-2006, 02:06 PM

As the title suggests, I was wondering what would have happened if 8th day Juggernaut (or is there a more powerful version?) would, with enough given space to run, be able to brake/run trough 5cm (around 2 inch) tick wall of Adamantium class II. And would he be able to scratch wall of Adamantium class I?

Bout get (wall as well) bloodlust on and prep time.:evilsmile

Gnarl · 10-21-2006, 02:16 PM

Theoretically, I think he could. He can't be stopped. But he can be slowed down. So I think something like that would slow him down to where it might take a vast amount of time to break through.

Silliw 2 · 10-21-2006, 02:17 PM

When Juggernaut is at his full power, it is said that no force on Earth can stop him.

So although there have been a few exceptions, I say Cain keeps on truckin.

Lord of Denial · 10-21-2006, 02:23 PM

The type II stuff he runs thru without even slowing down. The true Adamantium cannot be broken or damage by physicl force. It can only be changed by messing with it's molecular makeup.

Did Juggs really smash thru reality barriers? If so that suggests some level of reality warping so he should be able to bust up true Adamantium as well.

Shaman from Serbia · 10-21-2006, 02:26 PM

Yeah, but Even the entities and Gods have trouble with Adamantium class II. As much as I know nothing can brake Adamantium class I. And there lies a problem. Only way I heard to do anything to Ad. I is to use molecular destabilizator. I mean this wall it harder and fatter than Wolverine's claws!

Iron Mike · 10-21-2006, 02:32 PM

Didn't Hulk damage Ultron's adamantium 1 casing in secret wars on brute strength?

Shaman from Serbia · 10-21-2006, 02:56 PM

As much as I can recall, he didn't. At least not in first book. But at that time I think that Ultron had adamantium II body.

Iron Mike · 10-21-2006, 03:04 PM

I can't remember what issue it was in (Likely 12), but he definitley did damage it. What type of adamantium it was remains to be seen, though I was under the impression that, at that time atleast Utron used admantium 1.

one other thing. It's generally accepted that Captain America's shield is stronger than adamantium 1, but if adamantium 1 is indestructable, how cananything possibly be stronger?

sharkerbob · 10-21-2006, 03:22 PM

Well... Juggy could probably just end up uprooting the wall and carryign it with him, despite whatever it may be anchored to.

Otherwise, he ricocheta off and goes another direction, maybe?

sharkerbob · 10-21-2006, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Iron Mike

I can't remember what issue it was in (Likely 12), but he definitley did damage it. What type of adamantium it was remains to be seen, though I was under the impression that, at that time atleast Utron used admantium 1.

one other thing. It's generally accepted that Captain America's shield is stronger than adamantium 1, but if adamantium 1 is indestructable, how cananything possibly be stronger?

Caps shield is an adamantium/virbanium alloy. Vibranium absorbs or neutralizes physical/virbational/kinetic force, so theoretically, a metal that cannot be damaged by physical force, that also absorbs and cancels out physical force could by a stretch be considered stronger.

Of course, I could be completely wrong.

kain5252 · 10-21-2006, 03:27 PM

I think Juggs would keep on going but the wall would just go with him. That or he would up-root it and knock the wall down then run over it.

Iron Mike · 10-21-2006, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sharkerbob

Caps shield is an adamantium/virbanium alloy. Vibranium absorbs or neutralizes physical/virbational/kinetic force, so theoretically, a metal that cannot be damaged by physical force, that also absorbs and cancels out physical force could by a stretch be considered stronger.

Of course, I could be completely wrong.

It's not, Cap's shield is an alloy of vibranium, steel, and a unknown catlyst. Adamantium was created much later (after cap was revived I think) in a failed effort to replicate cap's shield.

having said that, I suppose it could be argued that cap's shield is more durable at a molecular level, but both are normally virtually indestructible.

TheRedFear · 10-22-2006, 11:47 AM

The wall will move WITH Juggs, or fall over, or get pushed out of his way, but no, it won't break.

Kholdhearted · 10-22-2006, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaman from Serbia

As the title suggests, I was wondering what would have happened if 8th day Juggernaut (or is there a more powerful version?) would, with enough given space to run, be able to brake/run trough 5cm (around 2 inch) tick wall of Adamantium class II. And would he be able to scratch wall of Adamantium class I?

Bout get (wall as well) bloodlust on and prep time.:evilsmile

Yes, there is Trion Juggernaut.

Shaman from Serbia · 10-22-2006, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kholdhearted

Yes, there is Trion Juggernaut.

Is he the strongest version of J?

10-21-2006, 02:06 PM	#1
Shaman from Serbia Master of Blue flame Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 652	8th day J runs into Adamantium wall As the title suggests, I was wondering what would have happened if 8th day Juggernaut (or is there a more powerful version?) would, with enough given space to run, be able to brake/run trough 5cm (around 2 inch) tick wall of Adamantium class II. And would he be able to scratch wall of Adamantium class I? Bout get (wall as well) bloodlust on and prep time.:evilsmile __________________ Crash Mandy: And there he is now. Strange:...Is that boy playing Horsey with THOR?!? Grim: He's actually controlling himself rather well. Thor: Verily! The figure from mine darkest nightmares has become reality! Father, All-Seeing Lord Odin, I beseech you to help me! Beep Monotone Voice: We're sorry, the Asgardian High-Deity you have beseeched is currently unavailable at the moment. Please hang up, and try again with a sacrificial offering at the next solstice. Thor: NOOOoooo!

10-21-2006, 02:26 PM	#5
Shaman from Serbia Master of Blue flame Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 652	Yeah, but Even the entities and Gods have trouble with Adamantium class II. As much as I know nothing can brake Adamantium class I. And there lies a problem. Only way I heard to do anything to Ad. I is to use molecular destabilizator. I mean this wall it harder and fatter than Wolverine's claws! __________________ Crash Mandy: And there he is now. Strange:...Is that boy playing Horsey with THOR?!? Grim: He's actually controlling himself rather well. Thor: Verily! The figure from mine darkest nightmares has become reality! Father, All-Seeing Lord Odin, I beseech you to help me! Beep Monotone Voice: We're sorry, the Asgardian High-Deity you have beseeched is currently unavailable at the moment. Please hang up, and try again with a sacrificial offering at the next solstice. Thor: NOOOoooo!

10-21-2006, 02:32 PM	#6
Iron Mike Blues Brother Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cork, Ireland Posts: 97	Didn't Hulk damage Ultron's adamantium 1 casing in secret wars on brute strength? __________________ They call me Iron Mike for a reason you know. Can anyone tell me what that reason is?

10-21-2006, 02:56 PM	#7
Shaman from Serbia Master of Blue flame Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 652	As much as I can recall, he didn't. At least not in first book. But at that time I think that Ultron had adamantium II body. __________________ Crash Mandy: And there he is now. Strange:...Is that boy playing Horsey with THOR?!? Grim: He's actually controlling himself rather well. Thor: Verily! The figure from mine darkest nightmares has become reality! Father, All-Seeing Lord Odin, I beseech you to help me! Beep Monotone Voice: We're sorry, the Asgardian High-Deity you have beseeched is currently unavailable at the moment. Please hang up, and try again with a sacrificial offering at the next solstice. Thor: NOOOoooo!

10-21-2006, 03:04 PM	#8
Iron Mike Blues Brother Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cork, Ireland Posts: 97	I can't remember what issue it was in (Likely 12), but he definitley did damage it. What type of adamantium it was remains to be seen, though I was under the impression that, at that time atleast Utron used admantium 1. one other thing. It's generally accepted that Captain America's shield is stronger than adamantium 1, but if adamantium 1 is indestructable, how cananything possibly be stronger? __________________ They call me Iron Mike for a reason you know. Can anyone tell me what that reason is?

10-21-2006, 02:16 PM	#2
Gnarl Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,329	Theoretically, I think he could. He can't be stopped. But he can be slowed down. So I think something like that would slow him down to where it might take a vast amount of time to break through.

10-21-2006, 02:17 PM	#3
Silliw 2 LGNDRY TROLL Join Date: May 2004 Location: under a bridge Posts: 517	When Juggernaut is at his full power, it is said that no force on Earth can stop him. So although there have been a few exceptions, I say Cain keeps on truckin.

10-21-2006, 02:23 PM	#4
Lord of Denial Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hell, Ohio Posts: 9,728	The type II stuff he runs thru without even slowing down. The true Adamantium cannot be broken or damage by physicl force. It can only be changed by messing with it's molecular makeup. Did Juggs really smash thru reality barriers? If so that suggests some level of reality warping so he should be able to bust up true Adamantium as well.

10-21-2006, 03:22 PM	#9
sharkerbob New Age of Breakfast Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dream Realm Posts: 11,995	Well... Juggy could probably just end up uprooting the wall and carryign it with him, despite whatever it may be anchored to. Otherwise, he ricocheta off and goes another direction, maybe? __________________ Wavemaninawe - "You habitually wear swords in public... but no pants... this despite growing up in a colony of poisonous spiders? You are a very peculiar man, Sharkerbob." Sharkerbob - "True Pantslessness is as much a state of mind and social interaction method as it is a matter of simply not wearing pants." You should check this guy out: Dave Van Domelen's ASH Universe

10-21-2006, 03:27 PM	#11
kain5252 The Omniversial Nightmare Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Who Knows Posts: 31,222	I think Juggs would keep on going but the wall would just go with him. That or he would up-root it and knock the wall down then run over it. __________________ Cowards often mistake bravery for insanity or stupidity --------------------------------------------------- Studies prove that one of the side effects of gaining super powers is the urge to wear tights. --------------------------------------------------- The world has plenty of two types of resources: Carbon Dioxide and stupidity Outstanding Achievement in Dickery

10-22-2006, 11:47 AM	#13
TheRedFear Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,668	The wall will move WITH Juggs, or fall over, or get pushed out of his way, but no, it won't break. __________________ You can't have Slaughter without Laughter :) Reason is the greatest enemy Faith has ever faced. My Thoughts on Anita Blake: Bah, plenty of female characters manage to be cool and badass and girl-powery without being sociopathic cruel abusive bitchy skanks

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