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Mr. Palmer · 11-03-2009, 05:30 PM

I'm a big Swampy fan, and was just wondering if it's imperative that I also read HELLBLAZER? I know Constantine figures into some of Swampy's stories, so it got me to thinking...

I've ordered issues #255-260 of HELLBLAZER, just to give it a taste. If I like it, and it's strongly suggested to read it, I'll start deliving into the trades.

Any help is appreciated!

bookguy · 11-03-2009, 06:47 PM

First, I suggest that you start reading Alan Moore's Swamp Thing run.
If you wish to be more specific, try vols. 3-5 as John Constantine figures heavily in the story-lines in those volumes.
Then, if memory serves me right, vol. 7 of Rick Veitch's Swamp Thing run has some John Constantine in that area (maybe vol. 8 as well).

I do know that JC also appeared in the last two Swamp Thing (Vertigo) titles by Brian Vaughan and Andy Diggle, but don't know which issues he appeared in.
Vertigo/DC has collected most of Diggles run, but none of Vaughan's run.

JC also appeared in the first Books of Magic mini-series, The Trenchcoat Brigade mini-series.

As far as Hellblazer goes, Vertigo/DC has collected all of Diggle/Carey/Azzarello/Ellis run, most of Delano and Ennis run, but none of Jenkins run (not yet anyway), and some of the one-issue stories that appeared off and on throughout the series.

There's alot of tpbs. mostly covers 3/4 of the series.

I wish you good luck if you're going that way.

noh-varr · 11-03-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Palmer

I'm a big Swampy fan, and was just wondering if it's imperative that I also read HELLBLAZER? I know Constantine figures into some of Swampy's stories, so it got me to thinking...

I've ordered issues #255-260 of HELLBLAZER, just to give it a taste. If I like it, and it's strongly suggested to read it, I'll start deliving into the trades.

Any help is appreciated!

Hellblazer has little to nothing to ever do with Swamp Thing. I can only recall him appearing in the issue where he comes to John's birthday party and makes a little tiny pot plant turn into a huge tree so there is drugs for all. But really the two titles never crossover or anything.

Cash Lone · 11-03-2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Palmer

I'm a big Swampy fan, and was just wondering if it's imperative that I also read HELLBLAZER? I know Constantine figures into some of Swampy's stories, so it got me to thinking...

I've ordered issues #255-260 of HELLBLAZER, just to give it a taste. If I like it, and it's strongly suggested to read it, I'll start deliving into the trades.

Any help is appreciated!

Usually, Constantine appears in Swamp Things book, not so much the other way around. So, its not imperative to read Hellblazer.

IIRC - the two books cross referenced each other early on in Hellblazer, it was about the birth/creation of Tefe'.

Swamp Thing also returned in Mike Careys' run of Hellblazer for a couple of issues.

Global Honored · 11-04-2009, 04:42 AM

Even though Swampy figures to almost zero in the Hellblazer series....I still think you'll get a kick out of our "hero" Mr Constantine. 255-260 is a good little story that is not too difficult to catch on and follow and get a sense of what John and his adventures are all about.

Mr. Palmer · 11-04-2009, 04:12 PM

I honestly appreciate the replies. Thanks!

I'll give HELLBLAZER the run of #255-260 and see what I think of it. That sure is a lot of trades to wade through, though. I'll see how things pan out.

And I've read Moore's Swampy. Fantastic stuff! Simply blew me away.

Shellhead · 11-04-2009, 05:39 PM

Tefe Holland is closely related to John Constantine.

theflyingfrogunderdog · 11-04-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Palmer

I honestly appreciate the replies. Thanks!

I'll give HELLBLAZER the run of #255-260 and see what I think of it. That sure is a lot of trades to wade through, though. I'll see how things pan out.

And I've read Moore's Swampy. Fantastic stuff! Simply blew me away.

I remember when ST went into space...that was the epitome of the run. Still have my collection from #1-59.

will_butler · 11-06-2009, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Palmer

I honestly appreciate the replies. Thanks!

I'll give HELLBLAZER the run of #255-260 and see what I think of it. That sure is a lot of trades to wade through, though. I'll see how things pan out.

And I've read Moore's Swampy. Fantastic stuff! Simply blew me away.

The cool thing about Hellblazer is that you can jump in pretty much wherever you like without too much trouble. Ellis's two trades are excellent, and Ennis's Dangerous Habits is one of my favorite comics of all time. Jason Aaron recently did a two issue story that was pretty fantastic, as well.

Mr. Palmer · 11-06-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Shellhead

Tefe Holland is closely related to John Constantine.

Wasn't Constantine used to get Abby pregnant?

FanboyStranger · 11-07-2009, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Palmer

Wasn't Constantine used to get Abby pregnant?

Yes and no. spoilers:

Swamp Thing possesses John's body in order to make love to Abby, but John's spirit is off traveling the astral plane. So, it's really not John, per se, although in true Constantine fashion, he reenters his body just seconds after Abby and Swampy climax, leading to much anger, suspicion, and embarassment on the part of Abby

end of spoilers.

daveageallen · 11-09-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FanboyStranger

Yes and no. spoilers:

Swamp Thing possesses John's body in order to make love to Abby, but John's spirit is off traveling the astral plane. So, it's really not John, per se, although in true Constantine fashion, he reenters his body just seconds after Abby and Swampy climax, leading to much anger, suspicion, and embarassment on the part of Abby

end of spoilers.

biting into his turnips wasn't enough for him i am guessing

11-04-2009, 05:39 PM	#7
Shellhead Elder Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 19,458	Tefe Holland is closely related to John Constantine. __________________ Good decisions come from experience. Experience comes from bad decisions. The price is wrong, bitch. --Happy Gilmour (to Bob Barker) still buying: Hellboy, Grimjack, Jonah Hex, JSA, Planetary

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11-03-2009, 05:30 PM	#1
Mr. Palmer Smoke'em If You Got'em Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,085	Hellblazer/Swamp Thing I'm a big Swampy fan, and was just wondering if it's imperative that I also read HELLBLAZER? I know Constantine figures into some of Swampy's stories, so it got me to thinking... I've ordered issues #255-260 of HELLBLAZER, just to give it a taste. If I like it, and it's strongly suggested to read it, I'll start deliving into the trades. Any help is appreciated!

11-03-2009, 06:47 PM	#2
bookguy Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 182	First, I suggest that you start reading Alan Moore's Swamp Thing run. If you wish to be more specific, try vols. 3-5 as John Constantine figures heavily in the story-lines in those volumes. Then, if memory serves me right, vol. 7 of Rick Veitch's Swamp Thing run has some John Constantine in that area (maybe vol. 8 as well). I do know that JC also appeared in the last two Swamp Thing (Vertigo) titles by Brian Vaughan and Andy Diggle, but don't know which issues he appeared in. Vertigo/DC has collected most of Diggles run, but none of Vaughan's run. JC also appeared in the first Books of Magic mini-series, The Trenchcoat Brigade mini-series. As far as Hellblazer goes, Vertigo/DC has collected all of Diggle/Carey/Azzarello/Ellis run, most of Delano and Ennis run, but none of Jenkins run (not yet anyway), and some of the one-issue stories that appeared off and on throughout the series. There's alot of tpbs. mostly covers 3/4 of the series. I wish you good luck if you're going that way.

11-04-2009, 04:42 AM	#5
Global Honored Mr. T's bodyguard Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,465	Even though Swampy figures to almost zero in the Hellblazer series....I still think you'll get a kick out of our "hero" Mr Constantine. 255-260 is a good little story that is not too difficult to catch on and follow and get a sense of what John and his adventures are all about.

11-04-2009, 04:12 PM	#6
Mr. Palmer Smoke'em If You Got'em Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,085	I honestly appreciate the replies. Thanks! I'll give HELLBLAZER the run of #255-260 and see what I think of it. That sure is a lot of trades to wade through, though. I'll see how things pan out. And I've read Moore's Swampy. Fantastic stuff! Simply blew me away.