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DetectiveDupin · 11-24-2009, 01:29 PM

Norman Osborn has been pretty interesting and compelling in DR. I think he's the best villain in any comic universe this year. I know he's such a bastard, but I have to admit I'm interested in pretty much everything he shows up in, just to see what harm he'll do next. Kinda like Jeph Loeb.

AbdulAziz · 11-24-2009, 01:38 PM

Before "Dark Reign" he was maybe my 5th or 6th favorite Spidey villain, now he's No.1, an equal to the awesomeness of "Dr. Doom", more because he doesn't use magic

He deserves the "Best Villain of 2k9" with pride

Omega Alpha · 11-24-2009, 01:42 PM

Nah, he was the best villain of 2008, for sure. Great in Thunderbolts and managed a big win.

Best villain of the year is Loki, whether as male or female.

BeastieRunner · 11-24-2009, 01:49 PM

DOOM! THERE IS NONE GREATER!

Loki as a chick has been better than Norman, too.

DetectiveDupin · 11-24-2009, 01:51 PM

You know, a good portion of villains have had a good year. This boded better for Marvel Villains than DC's when DC did that whole 'Faces of Evil" thing.

Elijah Dexan · 11-24-2009, 01:52 PM

This year Norman played the evil, bumbling, and incompetent dictator.

He is defeated constantly yet inexplicably stays in power, kinda like Mojo or Skeltor.

Gadget3440 · 11-24-2009, 02:07 PM

The way how loki's frelled with the asgardians In such a vicious and henious manner makes he/ she the villain of the year. Osborn has nothing on him/her

The Cool Thatguy · 11-24-2009, 02:15 PM

Define best.

Norman's characterization is Dr. Evil played straight. He's not misunderstood, or defined by one fatal flaw, or driven to extremes for an otherwise noble cause. He's just evil for sh*t and giggles.

He's just a power hungry sociopath. In place of characterization, and it's lack, he's described as insane, which simply isn't a motivation. You can't even argue that he's just going to extreme lengths to keep the country safe, because he's basically teaching villains how to exploit the system.

He's a boring one note, built up because he became a pet character and will fail as predicted by *everyone*.

His characterization is taken from 80s cartoons, his rise to power was hamfisted and his eventual destruction lacks real tension.

The Spot is a better villain than him...

Sighphi · 11-24-2009, 02:24 PM

Hells to the nizzo.
All he has done is say "HAHHAHA! I'm in charge!!!" And that's it.
And some how he became a media expert.

Monty_Cristo · 11-24-2009, 02:30 PM

marvel picked Norman to be villain of the year.

Nefarius · 11-24-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Monty_Cristo

marvel picked Norman to be villain of the year.

Marvel wants to promote its current poster villain.So,it's logical to give him that title.But,in terms of story and good writing,i say Loki is the best.It looks like Siege would be Loki's game and he'll manipulate Osborn into messing with Asgard.

brundlefly · 11-24-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega Alpha

Nah, he was the best villain of 2008, for sure. Great in Thunderbolts and managed a big win.

Best villain of the year is Loki, whether as male or female.

I agree with both of these sentiments. In Thunderbolts, Ellis was the first writer to make Norman's return from the grave actually worthwhile. 'Dark Reign' Norman in '09 has simply not been as compelling as a character as 'Thunderbolts' Norman in '07 & '08. As noted in previous posts, there's a bit too much of 'Dr. Evil'/bumbling dictator in his current portrayal.

Loki's return to prominence in the Thor books is far more deserving of Villain of the Year for 2009. And Hickman's resurgent Baron Strucker in Secret Warriors is a runner-up, imo.

nuclearman · 11-24-2009, 03:31 PM

Villain of the year for me is Artume from the Incredible Hercules series.

Sighphi · 11-24-2009, 03:39 PM

Red Hulk.
Everyone hates him.

DetectiveDupin · 11-24-2009, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sighphi

Red Hulk.
Everyone hates him.

Haha, good one.

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11-24-2009, 01:29 PM	#1
DetectiveDupin Gonna break yo' neck Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,133	Norman Osborn- Best Villain of '09? Norman Osborn has been pretty interesting and compelling in DR. I think he's the best villain in any comic universe this year. I know he's such a bastard, but I have to admit I'm interested in pretty much everything he shows up in, just to see what harm he'll do next. Kinda like Jeph Loeb. __________________ Come discuss Morrison's Batman and help solve mysteries here.

11-24-2009, 01:38 PM	#2
AbdulAziz LIVE 2 SERVE Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 2,288	Before "Dark Reign" he was maybe my 5th or 6th favorite Spidey villain, now he's No.1, an equal to the awesomeness of "Dr. Doom", more because he doesn't use magic He deserves the "Best Villain of 2k9" with pride __________________ Blogger When Spider-Man is hated the reasons given for his are the worst

11-24-2009, 01:42 PM	#3
Omega Alpha HEXA! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rio de Janeiro, RJ, Brazil Posts: 11,413	Nah, he was the best villain of 2008, for sure. Great in Thunderbolts and managed a big win. Best villain of the year is Loki, whether as male or female. __________________ If we don’t develop adequate images, we will die out like dinosaurs. Werner Herzog

11-24-2009, 01:49 PM	#4
BeastieRunner +5 to sexterity Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: A place with three cities. Posts: 3,475	DOOM! THERE IS NONE GREATER! Loki as a chick has been better than Norman, too. __________________ Flash: "He looked like he was going to hit you." Batman: "Trying and succeeding are two different things."

11-24-2009, 01:51 PM	#5
DetectiveDupin Gonna break yo' neck Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,133	You know, a good portion of villains have had a good year. This boded better for Marvel Villains than DC's when DC did that whole 'Faces of Evil" thing. __________________ Come discuss Morrison's Batman and help solve mysteries here.

11-24-2009, 01:52 PM	#6
Elijah Dexan Crazy Stuff Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 184	This year Norman played the evil, bumbling, and incompetent dictator. He is defeated constantly yet inexplicably stays in power, kinda like Mojo or Skeltor.

11-24-2009, 02:07 PM	#7
Gadget3440 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 154	The way how loki's frelled with the asgardians In such a vicious and henious manner makes he/ she the villain of the year. Osborn has nothing on him/her __________________ Setlling for hindsight only

11-24-2009, 02:15 PM	#8
The Cool Thatguy Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,528	Define best. Norman's characterization is Dr. Evil played straight. He's not misunderstood, or defined by one fatal flaw, or driven to extremes for an otherwise noble cause. He's just evil for sht and giggles. He's just a power hungry sociopath. In place of characterization, and it's lack, he's described as insane, which simply isn't a motivation. You can't even argue that he's just going to extreme lengths to keep the country safe, because he's basically teaching villains how to exploit the system. He's a boring one note, built up because he became a pet character and will fail as predicted by everyone*. His characterization is taken from 80s cartoons, his rise to power was hamfisted and his eventual destruction lacks real tension. The Spot is a better villain than him...

11-24-2009, 02:24 PM	#9
Sighphi Miley Cyrus is DAZZLER!! Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 4,741	Hells to the nizzo. All he has done is say "HAHHAHA! I'm in charge!!!" And that's it. And some how he became a media expert. __________________ How did Spider-Woman get her powers back? 11 NA and 3 SW Motion Comic issues with no explanation. RIP X-Force 2008-2010. The best X-men book in the last two years.

11-24-2009, 02:30 PM	#10
Monty_Cristo Anty-Hero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 20,332	marvel picked Norman to be villain of the year. __________________ H.A.M.M.E.R (Hand's Amazing Mammaries Merit Extra Reinforcement) http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2...olt129_130.jpg

11-24-2009, 03:31 PM	#13
nuclearman ... on a fission mission Join Date: May 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 1,869	Villain of the year for me is Artume from the Incredible Hercules series. __________________ . Metron: I warn you one final time. Only a 12th level intellect has the slightest hope of surviving what you are about to experience. Lex Luthor: Then I'm overqualified. myspace twitter

11-24-2009, 03:39 PM	#14
Sighphi Miley Cyrus is DAZZLER!! Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 4,741	Red Hulk. Everyone hates him. __________________ How did Spider-Woman get her powers back? 11 NA and 3 SW Motion Comic issues with no explanation. RIP X-Force 2008-2010. The best X-men book in the last two years.

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