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Twigglet · 11-16-2009, 04:57 AM

Only other Avengers runs.

I've read a few, including Lees, Busieks and some other random issues, and I can safely say Bendis' Avengers run is now my favorite of all time.

Taken from Avengers: Dissasembled, to New Avengers, with Mighty and Dark Avengers added in as well. Is he anywhere near your favorite?

Burning_Pumpkin · 11-16-2009, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twigglet

Only other Avengers runs.

I've read a few, including Lees, Busieks and some other random issues, and I can safely say Bendis' Avengers run is now my favorite of all time.

Taken from Avengers: Dissasembled, to New Avengers, with Mighty and Dark Avengers added in as well. Is he anywhere near your favorite?

Yes, he is. And i've read as much Avengers as the next guy.

You know that this makes us the Anti-Fans

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AllisterH · 11-16-2009, 05:42 AM

Heh...expect a LOT of gnashing of teeth.

All I'll say is that Bendis has been the most influential writer in how the Avengers are perceived by comic book fans since Lee and Kirby.

Dr-Strange · 11-16-2009, 05:49 AM

I like the poll options.

Better than...

Yes: He is the best ever.

or

No: I hate the man.

Kudos, I did think this was going to be just another love/hate thread.

I was on the hating bandwagon for a while, then I sat down and read every New Avengers book in a day and thought although the quality did slip, all in all they were good. His weaklink for me was Mighty.

Whitster · 11-16-2009, 08:29 AM

Didn't read Mighty aside from the SI tie-ins but I'll def say yes to this question.

Majinoaw · 11-16-2009, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllisterH

Heh...expect a LOT of gnashing of teeth.

All I'll say is that Bendis has been the most influential writer in how the Avengers are perceived by comic book fans since Lee and Kirby.

Love him or hate him, he has been one of the most influential writers on Avengers in all time. He rebuilt that brand. It will suck once he leaves.

giovedi · 11-16-2009, 08:35 AM

No.

A few reasons: I don't like his characterization of some of my favorite Avengers characters. I don't like how he threw together his own personal dream team on New Avengers.

I don't doubt that he keeps a good schedule and is able to write several titles every month. He sells comics.

steveg887 · 11-16-2009, 08:46 AM

Unless we're counting Millar's Ultimates, Bendis' Dark Avengers is the only Avengers run I've ever read. So I guess it's my favorite by default.

Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying the hell out of it, but I'm sure there are better runs out there (I hear a lot of good things about Stern and Busiek).

XPac · 11-16-2009, 08:48 AM

"Great" is obviously a subjective term that will differ from one person to another. I think his run is good, but probably not my favorite.

That said, no one can objectively deny that he's not one of he most important and influential writers to have ever graced the book. He built up the Avengers brand name into the spine of the MU and the top selling franchise in the entire comic industry.

LordEd1976 · 11-16-2009, 08:51 AM

No.

I won't argue that his approach brought in new readers and was something different but it came at the expense of playing with continuity and characterization. Not to mention that SI had a great build-up but crashed when it came time to justifying said build-up. It really didn't feel like something he was working since day 1.

I would say it ranks just under the great runs

ljacone · 11-16-2009, 08:52 AM

Before Civil War, Bendis' Avengers was pretty decent most of the time. Uneven but not bad, generally. I'd definitely put it over as one of the most successful runs in the history of the property, even though I have given up on it.

Slyfer · 11-16-2009, 08:55 AM

Busiek's run with a GIANT CAP fighting a giant KANG = WIN

Ziggy Stardust · 11-16-2009, 09:30 AM

When I compare Bendis' run to Lee's, the 70s run, the 80s run, and then Busiek's?

Yeah, Bendis' don't rate.

Will.S · 11-16-2009, 09:54 AM

I don't know if I'd call it the greatest yet as I'd like to see him do more work with the big three to see if he can crank out a great run with them but he's certainly up there with Stern and Busiek as being among my favorite Avengers runs.

Despite a lot of gripes with his handling of certain characters and sub-plots, at least he's trying to do different things with the Avengers than trying to do a "greatest hits" version with the usage of the Mighty Avengers title, Dark Avengers, and the various characters that he's implanted within the Avengers canon.

Kasper Cole · 11-16-2009, 10:09 AM

It's ok but nowhere near the best.........though I think you could have a rotating cast of Alan Moore, Grant Morrison, Kurt Busiek and people would still be saying it's the worst thing ever.

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11-16-2009, 04:57 AM	#1
Twigglet Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,265	Is Bendis' Avengers run up there with the greatest? Only other Avengers runs. I've read a few, including Lees, Busieks and some other random issues, and I can safely say Bendis' Avengers run is now my favorite of all time. Taken from Avengers: Dissasembled, to New Avengers, with Mighty and Dark Avengers added in as well. Is he anywhere near your favorite? __________________ http://www.pulparcade.com/2006/08/18...lls-are-scary/

11-16-2009, 08:29 AM	#5
Whitster A Kick up the Jacksie! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Romford, London, UK Posts: 615	Didn't read Mighty aside from the SI tie-ins but I'll def say yes to this question. __________________ "Dooms codpiece is full of respect" - Name that Quote Bring back Dai Thomas

11-16-2009, 08:46 AM	#8
steveg887 Cube Master Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,284	Unless we're counting Millar's Ultimates, Bendis' Dark Avengers is the only Avengers run I've ever read. So I guess it's my favorite by default. Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying the hell out of it, but I'm sure there are better runs out there (I hear a lot of good things about Stern and Busiek). __________________ Click to Give (it's free)

11-16-2009, 08:51 AM	#10
LordEd1976 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: CLASSFIED Posts: 2,583	No. I won't argue that his approach brought in new readers and was something different but it came at the expense of playing with continuity and characterization. Not to mention that SI had a great build-up but crashed when it came time to justifying said build-up. It really didn't feel like something he was working since day 1. I would say it ranks just under the great runs __________________ "Our job is to do the impossible and make it look easy." Hawk G.I.Joe #1 (marvel series) "Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes" Buck Murdoc Airplane II the Sequel Favorite Writers: Geoff Johns, Larry Hama, Kurt Busiek Favorite Artists: George Perez, Alex Ross Favorite Heroes: Captain America, Captain Harlock, Alan Scott, Duke, Optimus Prime Favorite Villains: Char Aznable, Darth Vader, Megatron, Dr Doom

11-16-2009, 05:42 AM	#3
AllisterH Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4,350	Heh...expect a LOT of gnashing of teeth. All I'll say is that Bendis has been the most influential writer in how the Avengers are perceived by comic book fans since Lee and Kirby.

11-16-2009, 05:49 AM	#4
Dr-Strange Ex-Sorcerer Supreme Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 299	I like the poll options. Better than... Yes: He is the best ever. or No: I hate the man. Kudos, I did think this was going to be just another love/hate thread. I was on the hating bandwagon for a while, then I sat down and read every New Avengers book in a day and thought although the quality did slip, all in all they were good. His weaklink for me was Mighty.

11-16-2009, 08:35 AM	#7
giovedi Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 328	No. A few reasons: I don't like his characterization of some of my favorite Avengers characters. I don't like how he threw together his own personal dream team on New Avengers. I don't doubt that he keeps a good schedule and is able to write several titles every month. He sells comics.

11-16-2009, 08:48 AM	#9
XPac Elder Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,093	"Great" is obviously a subjective term that will differ from one person to another. I think his run is good, but probably not my favorite. That said, no one can objectively deny that he's not one of he most important and influential writers to have ever graced the book. He built up the Avengers brand name into the spine of the MU and the top selling franchise in the entire comic industry.

11-16-2009, 08:52 AM	#11
ljacone Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Simpsonville, SC Posts: 152	Before Civil War, Bendis' Avengers was pretty decent most of the time. Uneven but not bad, generally. I'd definitely put it over as one of the most successful runs in the history of the property, even though I have given up on it. __________________ Check out my Hawkman blog at: http://beingcarterhall.blogspot.com

11-16-2009, 08:55 AM	#12
Slyfer The First Ego Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tallon IV Posts: 860	Busiek's run with a GIANT CAP fighting a giant KANG = WIN __________________ *I am far beyond mutants as mutants are beyond you* - Apocalypse

11-16-2009, 09:30 AM	#13
Ziggy Stardust Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,348	When I compare Bendis' run to Lee's, the 70s run, the 80s run, and then Busiek's? Yeah, Bendis' don't rate.

11-16-2009, 09:54 AM	#14
Will.S Bionic commando Join Date: May 2004 Location: New York Posts: 18,071	I don't know if I'd call it the greatest yet as I'd like to see him do more work with the big three to see if he can crank out a great run with them but he's certainly up there with Stern and Busiek as being among my favorite Avengers runs. Despite a lot of gripes with his handling of certain characters and sub-plots, at least he's trying to do different things with the Avengers than trying to do a "greatest hits" version with the usage of the Mighty Avengers title, Dark Avengers, and the various characters that he's implanted within the Avengers canon. __________________ To unite against a common threat and talk about Avengers comics! The Avengers Assemble Podcast!

11-16-2009, 10:09 AM	#15
Kasper Cole Rohh-Dee Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: At Home Posts: 2,625	It's ok but nowhere near the best.........though I think you could have a rotating cast of Alan Moore, Grant Morrison, Kurt Busiek and people would still be saying it's the worst thing ever. __________________ "I’m from the same city as Venus and Serena, So don't get served" “Stop me if you can opponents. Then I will just pass to Kobe. Or maybe Kobe might pass to me. Or maybe Gasol might pass to Bynum. Your F*&#ed” - Ron Artest

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