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Rogue83 · 11-08-2009, 03:23 PM

Every member of this family has had some awful things happen to them but the question is: Which Summer/Greys family member has been screwed most often in character development and storylines? In the hands of a capable and passionate writer, this character could really come into their own and get the spotlight and development they deserve.

When considering your vote, don't select a character based on a recent occurence or one instance(i.e. cyclops mutating into a dick). Your selection should be based on the entire history of the x-men comics/characters.

Mike Carey's recent development of Rogue's character inspired me to start this thread. She just now finally got her due and grew as a character. I'm hoping whoever gets their hands on her next continues his work and that other characters start growing as well.

Some members of the Summers family could desperately use the same treatment. IMO, Havok should be first in line but I want to hear everyone's thoughts on this.

frostfire · 11-08-2009, 03:26 PM

This topic took my mind to a dirty place when I read it a first. I'm immature.

Rogue83 · 11-08-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by frostfire

This topic took my mind to a dirty place when I read it a first. I'm immature.

Not immature, only human :)

fortyseven · 11-08-2009, 03:36 PM

Madelyne Pryor, multiple times, and in both sense of the word.

Followed closely, in second, by all the Grey family members that got killed by the Shi'ar Death Commandos.

Michael P · 11-08-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fortyseven

Followed closely, in second, by all the Grey family members that got killed by the Shi'ar Death Commandos.

This is actually at the top of my list. I mean, what the hell?

fortyseven · 11-08-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael P

This is actually at the top of my list. I mean, what the hell?

It was a good issue though. It was probably one of the only actual good modern-Claremont issues.

ZNOP · 11-08-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fortyseven

Madelyne Pryor, multiple times, and in both sense of the word.

Followed closely, in second, by all the Grey family members that got killed by the Shi'ar Death Commandos.

I concur. That would be damn near all of them...

"Lady Grey" (ancestor, deceased)
Brian Grey (paternal uncle, deceased)
Julia Grey (paternal aunt, deceased)
Roger (uncle, deceased)
Fred Harriman (uncle-in-law, deceased)
Phyliss (maternal aunt, deceased)
Roy Dennefer (maternal uncle, deceased)
John Grey (father, deceased)
Elaine Grey (mother, deceased)
Bekka Wallis (cousin, deceased)
Julian (cousin, deceased)
Liam (cousin, deceased)
Mary-Margaret (cousin, deceased)
Kindra (cousin, deceased)
Derry Campbell (cousin, deceased)
Sara Grey-Bailey (sister, deceased)
Madelyne Pryor (clone, deceased)
Paul Bailey (brother-in-law, status uncertain)
Cyclops (ex-husband) (Should be any day now

)
Gailyn Bailey (niece, deceased)
Joey Bailey (nephew, deceased)
Marvel Girl (alternate reality daughter) (Does being lost in space count?)
X-Man (alternate reality son, deceased)
Cable (biological son by proxy)
Stryfe (son's clone/son) (Really now?

)
Jenskot (daughter-in-law, deceased)
Genesis (grandson, deceased)
Hope Summers(daughter-in-law, deceased)

Mutant Messiah (adopted grand-daughter - Questionable Summers... Only time will tell

)

Rogue83 · 11-08-2009, 03:56 PM

As I said, my vote is Havok.

1) Inconsistent and immature personality. Living in his older brother's shadow for far too long.
2) Powers....they're powerful, they're not. He needs a suit, then he doesn't.
3) Mutant X....WTF?
4) Polaris as his crazy love interest.
5) Any x-factor issue that Peter David did not write.
6) Exiled to space. It was fun to see him spar with Vulcan and he's lasted far longer than cyclops would have but he needs to come home. Sales trends indicate that cosmic marvel fans are fickle and i'd hate to see what happens to Havok when there are no more fueding alien species stories to tell.
7) In "X-Men: The End", he is killed off panel and never mentioned again.

Why isn't he here during all of the recent developments with Mutants? Would he share his brother's ideas or challenge him?

Havok83 · 11-08-2009, 03:58 PM

IA with Havok....he's defiently gotten it the worst

x-23 · 11-08-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by frostfire

This topic took my mind to a dirty place when I read it a first. I'm immature.

I was thinking the same thing.

Nyssane · 11-08-2009, 04:15 PM

Sara Grey.

Rogue83 · 11-08-2009, 04:45 PM

I am shocked there is so much love for Madelyne Pryor. I had no idea. Anyone care to explain?

Havok83 · 11-08-2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogue83

I am shocked there is so much love for Madelyne Pryor. I had no idea. Anyone care to explain?

your question wasnt about which one is loved the most. Im not surpised to see her in the lead bc she did get pretty screwed up by Marvel

Jackraow21 · 11-08-2009, 04:51 PM

Cable. The guy never should've been made a Summers in the first place. He was fine without the extra baggage.

Rogue83 · 11-08-2009, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Havok83

your question wasnt about which one is loved the most. Im not surpised to see her in the lead bc she did get pretty screwed up by Marvel

True. I guess I just assumed it was love because of all the pity votes she has received.

View Poll Results: Which Summers/Grey family member has been screwed the most?
Jean Grey	7	7.29%
Havok	10	10.42%
Cyclops	3	3.13%
Cable	6	6.25%
X-Man	1	1.04%
Madelyne Pryor	34	35.42%
Rachel Summers	25	26.04%
Stryfe	5	5.21%
Corsair	5	5.21%
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11-08-2009, 03:23 PM	#1
Rogue83 Untouchable Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Va Posts: 61	Which Summers/Grey family member got screwed the most? Every member of this family has had some awful things happen to them but the question is: Which Summer/Greys family member has been screwed most often in character development and storylines? In the hands of a capable and passionate writer, this character could really come into their own and get the spotlight and development they deserve. When considering your vote, don't select a character based on a recent occurence or one instance(i.e. cyclops mutating into a dick). Your selection should be based on the entire history of the x-men comics/characters. Mike Carey's recent development of Rogue's character inspired me to start this thread. She just now finally got her due and grew as a character. I'm hoping whoever gets their hands on her next continues his work and that other characters start growing as well. Some members of the Summers family could desperately use the same treatment. IMO, Havok should be first in line but I want to hear everyone's thoughts on this. Last edited by Rogue83; 11-08-2009 at 03:29 PM. Reason: typo

11-08-2009, 03:56 PM	#8
Rogue83 Untouchable Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Va Posts: 61	As I said, my vote is Havok. 1) Inconsistent and immature personality. Living in his older brother's shadow for far too long. 2) Powers....they're powerful, they're not. He needs a suit, then he doesn't. 3) Mutant X....WTF? 4) Polaris as his crazy love interest. 5) Any x-factor issue that Peter David did not write. 6) Exiled to space. It was fun to see him spar with Vulcan and he's lasted far longer than cyclops would have but he needs to come home. Sales trends indicate that cosmic marvel fans are fickle and i'd hate to see what happens to Havok when there are no more fueding alien species stories to tell. 7) In "X-Men: The End", he is killed off panel and never mentioned again. Why isn't he here during all of the recent developments with Mutants? Would he share his brother's ideas or challenge him? Last edited by Rogue83; 11-08-2009 at 03:57 PM. Reason: typo

11-08-2009, 04:15 PM	#11
Nyssane Brilyant Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 11,456	Sara Grey. __________________ "Look, can we talk about this later? I'm freezing my headlamps off up here. They don't call this the windy city for nothing!" -- Giganta, Doom Patrol #7 (2010)

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11-08-2009, 03:26 PM	#2
frostfire scraps and heart attacks Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: the abyss Posts: 69	This topic took my mind to a dirty place when I read it a first. I'm immature.

11-08-2009, 03:36 PM	#4
fortyseven P'taetas! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canada!! Posts: 764	Madelyne Pryor, multiple times, and in both sense of the word. Followed closely, in second, by all the Grey family members that got killed by the Shi'ar Death Commandos.

11-08-2009, 03:58 PM	#9
Havok83 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,095	IA with Havok....he's defiently gotten it the worst

11-08-2009, 04:45 PM	#12
Rogue83 Untouchable Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Va Posts: 61	I am shocked there is so much love for Madelyne Pryor. I had no idea. Anyone care to explain?

11-08-2009, 04:51 PM	#14
Jackraow21 Weapon XIX Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Dirty South Posts: 240	Cable. The guy never should've been made a Summers in the first place. He was fine without the extra baggage.