Batman becomes a power hungry villain.

[Alexander the immortal]

Don't ask how. He wants power , to rule over nations , things like that. How far can he go ?

He can take his preparation. He also has no access to things like lantern rings.

Scenario B) Batman exists Our universe and not Dc one. He gets his equipment in our universe provided that his equipment does not consist of things that come out of fantasy or are way way ahead of what human science has reached. he is also Bruce Wayne and has access to the money and most facilities that he would have in Gotham.

[Tequilamokinbrd]

Originally Posted by Alexander the immortal

Don't ask how. He wants power , to rule over nations , things like that. How far can he go ?

He can take his preparation. He also has no access to things like lantern rings.

Scenario B) Batman exists Our universe and not Dc one. He gets his equipment in our universe provided that his equipment does not consist of things that come out of fantasy or are way way ahead of what human science has reached. he is also Bruce Wayne and has access to the money and most facilities that he would have in Gotham.

Ok, so when you say he has no access to things like lantern rings, do you mean that he has to 100% do this with tech, or do you mean that he just can't use it himself?

What I mean is, sure you may not want Batman to be allowed to fight Superman by stealing John Stewart's ring, but if he were to convince John that he was doing the right thing & John fights Superman, does that count as Batman using the ring?


If Batman is allowed to utilize his metahuman friends, I think he could get very far. You gotta figure all of the Outsiders are gonna cut Batman a ton of slack and even follow him down the wrong path for a while out of trust in him, ditto for half the Justice League. And then if you think about it going by that same logic he'd have all the Titans in his pocket as well because if Dick Grayson can't get the Titans to do his bidding I don't know who could & Dick would fight God for Bruce.




I say Bruce wins the Earth, but isn't able to maintain it & is quickly overthrown.

It all comes apart when Dick has some kind of moment of clarity & realizes Bruce has lost it. He frees Superman from whatever plot device Bruce used to take him out(because Batman would certainly try to account for the world's greatest hero), and Superman & Dick would gather a team of brains(Luthor, Sivana, Terrific, Palmer, al Ghul) to counter anything Bruce could cook up.



He comes here & does it? We're ruled with an iron fist.

[Ptrvc]

Wait wasn't he one already?

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Actually that comment doesn't make sense, but its the type of thing people usually say when the phrase [Blank] becomes a [Blank] is used.

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Anyhow.

A. No

B. Yes

[Wjowski]

No chance. The very people he trained will be there helping the rest of the world to cut his legs out from under him if he tried.

Our world? He likely has a better chance.

[longdecember]

Originally Posted by Wjowski

No chance. The very people he trained will be there helping the rest of the world to cut his legs out from under him if he tried.

Our world? He likely has a better chance.

Very good way to solve the maths of this bat-thread.

[sun tzu]

Originally Posted by Wjowski

No chance. The very people he trained will be there helping the rest of the world to cut his legs out from under him if he tried.

Which is probably why he'd make sure to take them out first.
Shouldn't be hard. He knows their secret identities, he can take his time...

[Radioactive Zombie]

Is he still sticking to his philosphy of non-lethality?

[Alexander the immortal]

Originally Posted by Radioactive Zombie

Is he still sticking to his philosphy of non-lethality?

No he isn't. He is of the "doesn't matter if we break some eggs to make an omelet" philosophy , now.

[Radioactive Zombie]

Then Joker's the first to go.

[BYC]

Originally Posted by Alexander the immortal

Don't ask how. He wants power , to rule over nations , things like that. How far can he go ?

He can take his preparation. He also has no access to things like lantern rings.

Scenario B) Batman exists Our universe and not Dc one. He gets his equipment in our universe provided that his equipment does not consist of things that come out of fantasy or are way way ahead of what human science has reached. he is also Bruce Wayne and has access to the money and most facilities that he would have in Gotham.

I think if Batman does the Luthor thing, he'll get pretty far. He'll be similiar to Luthor/Doom in the sense he'll be untouchable by legal means, and most heroes probably won't break the law by attacking him openly. Superman might actually be watching him 24/7 from orbit using the x-ray telescopic.

If Batman does the stupid thing and goes warlord, rape, kill, pillage without a care, he'll be done pretty fast.

[Alexander the immortal]

Originally Posted by Radioactive Zombie

Then Joker's the first to go.

However he may still not kill so that none will figure out that he has changed. He is willing to kill but that does not mean he will kill.

But i guess Batman is smart enough to make his kills appear as accidents.

[OverMaster]

The first thing Bruce does is to go to Ra's al Ghul (if he's alive this week) and accept joining him, then to betray him from the inside. All the while playing dumb to the JLA and pretending he's just as usual. Maybe joins forces with other villains to lead the heroes into traps after traps so he can dispose of them without revealing his own hand.

Martian Manhunter probably has to be the first one to go, since he'll get suspicious before Superman and he can read Batman's mind.

Then again, maybe Alfred just takes things into his own hands and shoots him in the head before he can do any harm. Because Alfred is awesome like that.

[OverMaster]

Originally Posted by Alexander the immortal

However he may still not kill so that none will figure out that he has changed. He is willing to kill but that does not mean he will kill.

But i guess Batman is smart enough to make his kills appear as accidents.

See, I think a villainous Batman would actually go after the superheroes first; if he's really serious about powergaming, Gotham City won't matter a shit to him anymore (which will probably piss the hell outta Joker. And I see him figuring Batman's change rather quickly, only to learn no one will believe him until it's too late).

[abmccray]

So you'd have a richer and more powerful Lex Luthor that initially has the heroes' trust and knows all their secret identities and weaknesses? Oh my.

[Alexander the immortal]

Originally Posted by OverMaster

See, I think a villainous Batman would actually go after the superheroes first; if he's really serious about powergaming, Gotham City won't matter a shit to him anymore (which will probably piss the hell outta Joker. And I see him figuring Batman's change rather quickly, only to learn no one will believe him until it's too late).

Well we all know he had countermeasures. For the sake of making it easier for Bruce let's say that this is all before Ra used them. Though i am not sure whether he can do it vs all of them. I think it would be more of his style to permanently take out one after another while they are isolated but not fight all of them. Won't be easing doing so without involving the others though.

Of course i am not telling that this is what Batman certainly would do. I am just speculating.