Go Back   Comic Book Resources Forums > CBR Columns and Blogs > You'll All Be Sorry

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-26-2009, 03:13 PM   #1
the4thpip
They call me Mr. Pip!
 
the4thpip's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 16,350
Default Oscar Winner leaves Church of $ over Gay Rights

Quote:
NEW YORK — "Crash" director Paul Haggis has severed his ties with the Church of Scientology, in part because of the organization's stance against gay marriage.

Haggis wrote a letter addressed to Tommy Davis, the head of Scientology's Celebrity Centre. In it, Haggis said he was disappointed by the church's tacit denial of gay rights and its backing of California's gay marriage ban.

The 56-year-old Haggis, who won an Oscar in 2005 for co-writing "Crash," said he was quitting the church after 35 years.

"I could not, in good conscience, be a member of an organization where gay-bashing was tolerated," Haggis wrote.

The filmmaker said that he was promised that action would be taken but that he was frustrated after time passed.

"Silence is consent, Tommy," Haggis wrote. "I refuse to consent."

The letter, dated Aug. 19, was published in a blog about Scientology and has since been widely circulated online.

Ziggy Kozlowski, a publicist for Haggis, confirmed that the director wrote the letter. Kozlowski said the letter was intended to remain private.

Messages left with the Church of Scientology in Los Angeles weren't immediately returned Monday.

For an organization often shrouded in secrecy, the letter offered an unusual window into a dialogue between the church and one of its famous members. Occasionally, Scientology materials are leaked. Last year, a promotional video starring its most famous member, Tom Cruise, was watched by millions.

Haggis said he was "shocked" that the Church of Scientology was publicly denying that it adheres to a policy of disconnection — of severing ties with a friend or family member who's antagonistic toward Scientology. Haggis said that his wife, Deborah Rennard, was given precisely those orders and didn't speak to her parents for more than a year.

"The great majority of Scientologists I know are good people who are genuinely interested in improving conditions on this planet and helping others," Haggis wrote. "I have to believe that if they knew what I now know, they too would be horrified."

Haggis, who also wrote the Oscar-winning "Million Dollar Baby," is shooting "The Next Three Days" in Pittsburgh. It stars Russell Crow, Liam Neeson and Elizabeth Banks.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...RTiCAD9BJ0K1O0
__________________
My blog.

We struggled against apartheid in South Africa, supported by people the world over, because black people were being blamed and made to suffer for something we could do nothing about; our very skins. It is the same with sexual orientation. It is a given.
- Desmond Tutu

Getting married? Check http://www.fandgweddings.com/
the4thpip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 03:33 PM   #2
Red Jack
Writer
 
Red Jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 6,824
Default

Good for Paul.
__________________
"I've failed over and over and over again in my life and that is why I succeed."-Michael Jordan -
@ Pocket Full of Mumbles | @ Genre19
Red Jack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 03:41 PM   #3
jesse_custer
Elder Member
 
jesse_custer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 11,982
Default

I'm just wondering why Haggis waited this long. From what I understand, the church has never fought for gay rights. Has Haggis always been for gay rights?
jesse_custer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 03:44 PM   #4
NickThompson
Making up the numbers
 
NickThompson's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: England
Posts: 3,441
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jesse_custer View Post
I'm just wondering why Haggis waited this long. From what I understand, the church has never fought for gay rights. Has Haggis always been for gay rights?
Wouldn't that not neccesarily be an issue? His problem isn't not fighting for gay rights, it's a problem with gay-bashing.
NickThompson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 03:52 PM   #5
jesse_custer
Elder Member
 
jesse_custer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 11,982
Default

Haggis clearly states that silence is consent--or gay bashing, in other words.
jesse_custer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 04:04 PM   #6
titanfan
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 6,180
Default

Quote:
I'm just wondering why Haggis waited this long. From what I understand, the church has never fought for gay rights. Has Haggis always been for gay rights?
He acts like he's so appalled over the things he discovered in his letter--where if he bothered to google for 5 minutes, he could have found out about this stuff years and years ago.
titanfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 04:17 PM   #7
M. Bushbug
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Mansfield, Wa.
Posts: 1,290
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by titanfan View Post
He acts like he's so appalled over the things he discovered in his letter--where if he bothered to google for 5 minutes, he could have found out about this stuff years and years ago.
Speaking of using google.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Scien...8&aq=t&rls=com
M. Bushbug is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 06:17 PM   #8
Charles RB
Elder Member
 
Charles RB's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 23,956
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jesse_custer View Post
I'm just wondering why Haggis waited this long.
It could be that he'd been a bit leery about it for a while now and one little thing just set it all off.
__________________
"We must fight on!"
"We'll die. We fight and we die, that's how it goes."
"Then we die gloriously!"
"There's an important word there, and it's not gloriously."
- Only You Can Save Mankind
Charles RB is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 06:47 PM   #9
Electric i
Bitch-Slap Masta
 
Electric i's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 234
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by M. Bushbug View Post
Ah yes...Cultists have demonstrated themselves to be tech-savvy. Couple that with the wealth that CSI has at its disposal and you have a powerful organization indeed.

Good for them.
Electric i is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 06:50 PM   #10
CYOTI
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,289
Default

The poor fool.

He is going to be hounded by the church of $$$ to the ends of the Earth.

You simply don't leave, the church is like the Mob.
CYOTI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 07:43 PM   #11
CBikle
Senior Member
 
CBikle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,398
Default

I think a little gay-bashing is a small price to pay for the security of knowing that there's at least, someone out there keeping the evil Xenu from stealing my thetans.
CBikle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 08:09 PM   #12
Eliseu Gouveia
Call me Zeu
 
Eliseu Gouveia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: In a Zoo
Posts: 11,896
Default

He´ll never do business in Hollywood again.
__________________
My page

My Comicspace

My Deviations
Eliseu Gouveia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 08:27 PM   #13
mikekerr3
Elder Member
 
mikekerr3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Delaware
Posts: 14,211
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CYOTI View Post
The poor fool.

He is going to be hounded by the church of $$$ to the ends of the Earth.

You simply don't leave, the church is like the Mob.
He;'s publicly visible enough that they will leave him alone, they can't work in the light of day.
__________________
Engineers think that equations approximate the real world.
Scientists think that the real world approximates equations.
Mathematicians are unable to make the connection.
mikekerr3 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 08:34 PM   #14
FeminineMystique
Patron Saint of S&M
 
FeminineMystique's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Here and there
Posts: 25,346
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikekerr3 View Post
He;'s publicly visible enough that they will leave him alone, they can't work in the light of day.
Much like most forms of vermin, they prefer to skulk in the darkness. And much like most forms of vermin their irritating and seem impossible to get rid of.
__________________
Amber Sweet is addicted to the knife

I know where you sleep

If you only knew the naughty things I'd like to do with you

Are you guys Yakuza?
Curses! My clever ruse has been exposed as a two bit sham. I would tip my hat to you, were I not currently bare headed
What?
I said you're a freaking genius you idiot!

Bring back Negasonic Teenage Warhead! Because there are more people who want to see her in the X Books than there are who want to see Jean Grey again.
FeminineMystique is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 11:00 PM   #15
DeadXMan
the monkey is back, baby!
 
DeadXMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: The Big O
Posts: 11,399
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CBikle View Post
I think a little gay-bashing is a small price to pay for the security of knowing that there's at least, someone out there keeping the evil Xenu from stealing my thetans.
All priase to Xenu!
__________________
A dead Spock without pants is the least of our worries....

~Reed Richards

Her name was Tabitha Smith.
DeadXMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:48 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 1996-2010 Boiling Point Internet DBA Comic Book Resources. All Rights Reserved.