Rumblers League 3: TWO VERSUS TWO MINI-TOURNAMENT Match 2

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ESTRECCA'S CHALLENGE #1.

TWO VERSUS TWO MINI-TOURNAMENT

Premise: Sponsor, the mysterious entity who summoned the members of YOU WIN SOME, YOU LOSE SOME from their respective universes, has now managed to bring from a possible future another group of pawns sworn to his service, THE HEAVY METAL PEOPLE.

Sponsor, believing that the combined power of his champions -present and future- is enough to defeat any other group in the League, has openly challenged his peers to prove him wrong. A few have already stated a willingness to put the young upstart in his place with their own teams.

Challenged: Whoever wants to fight my present team in combination with the 'future' team I've designed. I'm willing to fight up to four matches/eight teams as part of this challenge.

The Heavy Metal People: This is the 'future' team that will be partnering with my current guys for these challenge fights.

Megatron (Transformers) 7 + Tactigon (6).
R. Daneel Olivaw (Foundation) 8 + Cosmic Cube (10), Sage's Cybershades (4), Thinking Cap (4), Ghost's Battlesuit (4) & Accelerator Unit (8).
R2-D2 (Star Wars) 1 + Megas XL (8) & Borg Nanoprobes (3).
Super 17 (DBZ) 9 + Cosmic Converter Belt (5) & Adamantium Cuirass (4).
Ultron (Marvel) 8 + Motherbox (10), Globe Of Ultimate Knowledge (7) & Nanogenes (7).
Vision (Marvel) 7 + Zodiac Key (5) & Lucy Liu-Bot Girlfriend (4) w/ Moguera (8).

Battlefield: The DCverse world of Biot, homeworld of the Manhunters. NPCs include the Cyborg Superman, about a zillion Manhunters and several Green Lanterns who have been declared MIA and that are used as batteries by the locals.

When? The different matches would happen during the final week of the current Knockout Tournament.

Victory Conditions: For the challenged parties, all works as normal. In my case, I get 0.5 credits per match won. In other words, if I win only one of the matches, I get 0 credits; if I win two or three, I get 1 credit; and I have to win all four, to get my 2 extra credits.

Minor notes about the tournament challenge matches:

*At least some people know, but I'll be using Ultron as leader of the Phalanx in the more recent form shown during the Annihilation: Conquest event. Meaning that his base form is larger than normal, but lacks the adamantium armour present in most of his previous incarnations.

*The items of my robotic team have been integrated in the characters whenever possible.

*Finally, to avoid overlap with the Knockout Final, we'll be having the challenge matches AFTER the KO final match. Match 1 on Thursday, Match 2 on Friday and so on. Hope this is relatively convenient for everyone.

Okay.

CHALLENGE SCHEDULE

MATCH 1 - Thursday

Captain Morgan, The Arbiter & Holacik + druiler001 & skullboy001

MATCH 2 - Friday

Darth Drizzle + Randy Mandy

MATCH 3 - Saturday

WyldCard4 + The MunchKING

MATCH 4 - Sunday

KJS1982 & fudgekp + Tusk

If the days are inconvenient for you, try to persuade other teams to exchange match days for you before Wednesday.

And that's that. Good luck, everyone.

[WyldCard4]

First phase - LEAVING WHILE THE GOING IS GOOD.

DANEEL commands the Cube to teleport everybody (with all our belongings and no tagalongs) to a random location elsewhere in Biot exactly a second after the bell sounds. After this, he focuses in countering enemy telepathic attacks to the best of his considerable abilities.

SUPER 17 is once again in interception duty, absorbing energy attacks and plain beating around those who try to get close to the rest of my team.

ULTRON releases the nanogenes modified to be carriers of the Phalanx transmode virus, sending half of them towards DD&RM's combined team and the other half towards any nearby Manhunters. At the same time, the Motherbox is ordered to open boomtube portals in the path of incoming attackers, with the exit portal located two meters away from the event horizon of a black hole. Finally, Ultron is using his encephalo-beam to attack Phylla-Vell, since the lady killed him during Annihilation Conquest with her Quantum Soulsword and some payback is definitely in order.

THE VISION uses the Zodiac Key to send Moondragon to the Ankh Dimension. The Aegis breastplate offers wide spectrum protection against a lot of things, but dimension dumping isn't one of them (Hercules was able to transport Aegis and the rest of the New Warriors to Olympus) and since the key is cosmic (connected to the In-Betweener) rather than magic... Moondragon is going away. DD&RM can probably bring her back, but that's going to take time and it will make the telepathic onslaught coming my way easier to resist.

MEGATRON uses the Tactigon in molecular rearranger mode, moving it in a wide arc to hit as many enemies as possible, starting with Synch.

R2-D2 does another Megas Thunderclap and fires some lasers/missiles if he has time before being teleported away. Same with the M.O.G.U.E.R.A. piloted by ROBOT LUCY LIU that uses its autolaser and plasma eyebeams.

MISS MARTIAN, as usual, protects the more fragile meatbags. If she doesn't have anything better to do, she'll try to destroy the enemy Potara Earrings before the fusion can be completed with a couple of well placed heat vision blasts. Mary Marvel is a secondary target for this, too.

GISELLE will also be sending Celeste Cuckoo to the Demiplane of Missing Links. Without any ability of her own to move accross dimensions, this should prevent the fusion even if Miss Martian's heat vision attack fails. If Daneel somehow cannot give the teleport command, she will make a groupwide emergency teleport spell.

RAND blasts Giraud, Demona and Alyssa Moy with a couple hundred homing lightning bolts for each. It isn't going to take down any of them, but it should be a good distraction for a second or so.

BENDER sends Evil Pacman of Doom constructs against Jade and the White Witch to assimilate or, at least, prevent their initial attacks.

DUMBLEDORE hits Synch with a wordless Petrificus Totalus that should prevent him from activating the Accelerator and moving out of the way of Megatron's attack.

AGATHA makes a widebeam attack against the opposition with the Tactigon in stunner beam mode, making them easier targets for Megatron's attack.

OBELIX and ARAGORN stand still and try to stay alive in the second before being transported away.

Second phase - IN A HOLE IN THE GROUND, THERE LIVED A HOBBIT or SEND IN THE CLONES!

Right after the teleport, DANEEL is going to use to Cosmic Cube to put a cosmic level shield (TP-proof, TK-proof, teleport-proof and water-proof) around the group's current location. Meanwhile, GISELLE and DUMBLEDORE are adding to this with as many magical defenses as they can imagine, starting with the Vilya magic anti-telepathy field I already used in my recent match with Drizzle and the Fidelius Charm. Of course, every magical effect gets increased in power roughly a millionfold by Archemus' staff.

Next, ULTRON and DANEEL will get to work in a little project. Using Ultron's memories, the Globe of Ultimate Knowledge, the Motherbox and the Cosmic Cube, they are going to make a perfect copy of the Super-Adaptoid as he was back when he worked for the Phalanx as one of the Select... At this point, the Super-Adaptoid had copied the powers of the Avengers (at least Thor, Iron Man, Vision, Wasp, Hawkeye and possibly a few others), Captain Marvel (Genis) and the Quantum Bands. Using this copy as a template, the Cosmic Cube will be used to make several thousand new Super-Adaptoids (with Daneel making sure to include in their programming that containment >>>>>>> lethal force). At the same time, GISELLE will make a crystal ball. Combining the crystal ball with Archemus' staff, RAND will be using the final power of the staff to make a few hundred clones/astral projections of himself.

When all is ready, the Super-Adaptoids and Rand's replicas will be sent to the enemy location. ULTRON will be sent to a different, safer location, where he will immediately hack the Manhunter network and take control of every AI in Biot (he'll send the Cyborg a polite message along the lines of "I.O.U a robot army") and order them to join the massed attack against DD&RM's team.

Third phase – THERE IS NO KILL LIKE OVERKILL.

Miss Martian's curse is triggered with water and Giselle fuses with the original, after which her talisman is cracked. Bender's ring is supercharged to near super-Saiyan Larfleeze levels with the Cosmic Cube. Then, everyone excluding Dumbledore, the Yin Giselle Martian, Obelix and Aragorn, jumps to the battlefield, where DD&RM's team are presumably busy fighting the armies I have created/commandeered.

The Cosmic Cube will be used to cancel the Phoenix (with the Power Gem being useless in this fight it should be doable), Bender will handle the Green Lanterns (including the Lost Lanterns and/or Cyborg Superman if they have joined the enemy) with mass spam of Pacmans and clone constructs, Demona gets balefired with extreme prejudice (magic that erases you backwards in time > thousand year old immortality spell), Super 17 kills Goten and Ultron uses the Globe of Ultimate Knowledge and the Motherbox to deploy some kind of anti-telepathy technology (something similar to Magneto's helmet but with AoE). He also takes over robotic allies if they are somehow compromised.

And if this isn't enough to take down the DD&RM alliance, I don't know what could possibly work.

CONTINGENCIES:

Common sense disclaimer: All usual contingencies regarding dimension-dumps/healing/resurrection/dealing with hot water/helping allies when possible/fighting mind control... apply for this fight. The characters fight smart, trying to doubleteam enemies and don't stop fighting when their primary missions are over. They will also defend themselves to the best of their abilities when facing surprise attacks.

And that's that.

PRIORITY LIST (characters):

Marvel Girl.
Moondragon.
Synch.
Mary Marvel.
Phoenix.
Goten.
Jade.
Demona.
White Witch.
Celeste Cuckoo.
Alyssa Moy.
Phylla-Vell.
Kasper Cole.

[WyldCard4]

THE FIGHT: MARAUDERZ/NO BOYS CLUB VS ESTRECCA

Phoenix: Powers up Rachel/Synch with a thought giving them a portion of the PF(just like here) which allowed Rachel to fight Gladiator 1 on 1. Then he ports himself behind his opponents and explosivly creates a massive Phoenix aura construct around himself made of pure cosmic energy that engulfs all around him in a 90m wide radius vaporising them on contact. Protected behind 90 meters of pure energy he proceeds to drain the energy from the planet itself and all the machines on it(he has drained planets, and the PF itself has consumed countless stars, he himelf has also powerd entire planets with his energy) further powering himself up while his opponents are weakened severly. He then ports away people across the galaxy who cant return to the battle in time like R2, Super 17, Vision, Ms Martian, Megatron, and Rand. He does this until none are left, crushing people with TK or vaporizing them with cosmic energy. He uses his Reality warping skills to battle any reality adjustments.
Taken Out: Everyone who cant stand the heat, R2, Super 17, Vision, Ms Martian, Megatron, and Rand.

Demona: Going intangible to avoid any attacks she uses her time/dimensional powers to dump Olivaw, Rand, and top targets in a time loop(for those who can teleport across dimensions it nullifies that escape) while doing the same to any Manhunters or Cyborg Supes should they interfere. Then using her Moonstone enchanced powers she targets Vision and the people around him and uses her immense powers over gravity to crush them all, even if anyone their is Intangible they can still be effected and took down. She sontinues to trap and d-dump as many things as she can, helping out her teamates when needed.
Taken Out: Olivaw, Rand, other top targets

JuggerRachel/Marvel Girl: Gets powered up by Giruad as she breaks her talisman bringing in Marvel Girl and both attack with Psionic powers in different ways. JuggerRach uses TP to turn all sentient robots to her side and fight for her teams cause, and as nothing can hurt her while she does this thier is no stopping her from thinking. Marvel Girl goes to the Astral Plane and attacks from thier, shutting down/turning minds as she picks out top targets. JuggerRach then TK's the Staff from Rand to the Dark Witch as she charges in surrounded by her Phoenix aura taking out all in her path. With no way to stop her while in motion, she takes out Rand, Giselle, whoever gets in her way.
Taken Out: Rand, Giselle, and much more

Moondragon: Protected by her Aegis sheildng she attacks all sentient minds in the area, focusing on top targets like Olivaw, Rand, Gissel, Vision, and so on. Creating an inexcapable psionic attack from 2 different planes by 4+ top level characters with years of experiance no android/robot here can resist this assault.
Taken Out: Olivaw, Vision, Rand, Giselle, etc

Dark Witch of the Sith: With her Muur Talisman and a thought she turns Agatha, Obelix, Aragon, and Kasper into Rakghouls(zombie like creatures that retain all skills/powes/knowledge). With her zombie army under her control only she has Agatha use her Tactigon against her team suprise attacking them, as Obelix/Aragon start going crazy all around their former mates. With her high level magic also boosted by the Talsiman she can takes on Rand if he is still around, grabbing his Magic Staff from the air that was TK'd from him or going at it with her own powers(which was able to absorb an entity that gained a universal level of magic power.) She takes him out like this fairly easy as Rand would be mind attacked by multiple people breaking his concentration or teleported out without his staff. She then goes to help with top targets, countering any magic thrown at our team with a incredibly high level of magic power using it to her fullest.
Taken Out: Rand, magic users

Synch: Gets powered up by Giruad as he goes invisible and activates his Accel unit on top of his boosted PF power/abilities. He uses TP on the minds of the Lost Lanterns around and gets them to fight on his side or KO's them if they somehow resist. Then he teleports the trapped Lanterns inside the Highmaster/Manhunter bots far away leaving the giant robots without batteries. He invisibly moves/attacks with ruthless force as he blocks and counters any unforseen moves with Omega TK and top grade speed, taking on top level robots still around, and TK'ng people into Phoenixs large energy aura to burn.
Taken Out: Lost Lanterns, Manhunters, Highmasters

Ion Mary/Jade: Target Bender at the start, and if he is not Mind controlled they quickly take him out with Jade using her vastly superior Lantern skills/experiance as Mary smashes through anything he quickly tries to make. With the Manhunters limited ability to take in larg energy amounts energy Jade and Mary overload and smash any that try to catch them. Toghether they go and energy drain/blast/smash their way across the battlefield, using their Ion boosted powers all out against what seems like the planet itself. They get to Ultron and lay the beatin gon him with Jade manipulating his energy while Mary superspeeds in and out with her raw power taking it to him physically. Toghether they take down the Leader of the group, making thier teams jobs easier. They go on to help with top targets afterwards.
Taken Out: Ultron, Bender, many others

Lil Hal: Makes his Beta Ray Bill construct around himself(life sized, similar stats) and charges in at the Manhunters, going all out on all of them. When Synch TK's out any Lantern bodies he grabs the rings and puts them on himself/Mary boosting thier powers further. He helps people who need it, charging in and doing dirt.
Taken Out: NPC's, distracts bigger targets

Goten/Phylla-Vell/Celestial Lady: Using their secret weapon Goten goes Super Saiyan and invisible then joins the Celetial Lady and Phylla-Vell as they race off towards Ultron. With all the commotion and big hitters going at it, most likely these 3 will be overlooked/under-prepared for which works out for them. Goten blasts through any opposition from NPCs along with the Celestial Lady as Vell cuts threw energy sheilds and Robots like butter. Getting the jump on Ultron they use their secret weapon the Ebony Blade wielded by Vell which was what killed Ultron in Annihilation Conquest. With all the major attacks going on, no one would see the special ops force sneaking in for the game sealing kill.
Taken Out: Ultron, many more NPC's

[KJ Stewart]

Bumping. No debate *at all*. Madness.

[Holacik]

I gotta say having Ion going after Bender seems like a really really bad move. Larfleeze constructs were absorb Guardian energy attacks and Ion isn't at that level...

[Estrecca]

*cracks knuckles*

Well, I wanted to let Drizzle and Mandy take the first stab at this, but I think that I've waited long enough.

Originally Posted by WyldCard4

Phoenix: Powers up Rachel/Synch with a thought giving them a portion of the PF(just like here) which allowed Rachel to fight Gladiator 1 on 1.

Yikes!

The Phoenix can actually do this?

While I am not sure of the actual extent of the statboost (Gladiator's chief weakness is his confidence and this fight is against a supertelepath) and I thought that Rachel picked a Phoenix fragment that was somehow trapped inside a Shi'ar sword... Well, Yikes! covers it.

Then he ports himself behind his opponents and explosivly creates a massive Phoenix aura construct around himself made of pure cosmic energy that engulfs all around him in a 90m wide radius vaporising them on contact. Protected behind 90 meters of pure energy he proceeds to drain the energy from the planet itself and all the machines on it(he has drained planets, and the PF itself has consumed countless stars, he himelf has also powerd entire planets with his energy) further powering himself up while his opponents are weakened severly.

I see no reason to believe that the attempt to drain the Manhunter's energy will fail, so no Manhunter horde for Ultron then. Pity.

Fortunately, the mass teleport will have happened before Giraud can fry everyone with his flaming chicken construct.

He then ports away people across the galaxy who cant return to the battle in time like R2, Super 17, Vision, Ms Martian, Megatron, and Rand. He does this until none are left, crushing people with TK or vaporizing them with cosmic energy. He uses his Reality warping skills to battle any reality adjustments.

Well, I don't do any reality warping here and there is no way Giraud can locate my teams with his piss poor Cosmic Awareness and start teleporting before Daneel raises the supershield.

Demona: Going intangible to avoid any attacks she uses her time/dimensional powers to dump Olivaw, Rand, and top targets in a time loop(for those who can teleport across dimensions it nullifies that escape) while doing the same to any Manhunters or Cyborg Supes should they interfere.Then using her Moonstone enchanced powers she targets Vision and the people around him and uses her immense powers over gravity to crush them all, even if anyone their is Intangible they can still be effected and took down. She sontinues to trap and d-dump as many things as she can, helping out her teamates when needed.

...

The Moonstones can take down intangibles? I knew that they give phasing to the user and gravity/dimensional/temporal manipulation, but this is like the neatest thing ever.

However, everything Demona does here is pointless. She cannot trap Daneel in time here, because she only has about a second to do anything before my group goes away and her first action is to go intangible. And even if she doesn't go away, I have Daneel blasting her with lightning, so... Daneel gets to make his wish. And everything goes downhill for you from there.

JuggerRachel/Marvel Girl: Gets powered up by Giruad as she breaks her talisman bringing in Marvel Girl and both attack with Psionic powers in different ways. JuggerRach uses TP to turn all sentient robots to her side and fight for her teams cause, and as nothing can hurt her while she does this thier is no stopping her from thinking. Marvel Girl goes to the Astral Plane and attacks from thier, shutting down/turning minds as she picks out top targets. JuggerRach then TK's the Staff from Rand to the Dark Witch as she charges in surrounded by her Phoenix aura taking out all in her path. With no way to stop her while in motion, she takes out Rand, Giselle, whoever gets in her way.

Good news for you: There is nothing trying to stop JuggerRach.

Bad news for you: By cracking the talisman (which takes a couple of seconds to complete the creation of the Yin/Yang versions) as Marvel Girl's first action, my team has teleported away and is raising/has raised two layers of anti-telepathic defenses (one cosmic, one magical) by the time the Rachels are ready for combat.

Moondragon: Protected by her Aegis sheildng she attacks all sentient minds in the area, focusing on top targets like Olivaw, Rand, Gissel, Vision, and so on. Creating an inexcapable psionic attack from 2 different planes by 4+ top level characters with years of experiance no android/robot here can resist this assault.

Well, Daneel has enough telepathy of his own to trump Gaia, a planetary hive mind formed by a billion human telepaths. So I reckon that he could have personally resisted the super-telepathy attack, if he had stuck around.

But since he is well away from ground zero and behind a double layer of anti-telepathic barrier, I am certain that everyone makes it through the telepathic attack. Particularly, because Moondragon is in a holiday in the Ankh Dimension thanks to the Zodiac Key.

Dark Witch of the Sith: With her Muur Talisman and a thought she turns Agatha, Obelix, Aragon, and Kasper into Rakghouls(zombie like creatures that retain all skills/powes/knowledge). With her zombie army under her control only she has Agatha use her Tactigon against her team suprise attacking them, as Obelix/Aragon start going crazy all around their former mates.

I was expecting this!

And since I added the Muur talisman to the list, let me tell you something: The. Rakghoul. Plague. Can. Be. Healed. Cade Skywalker healed himself and Azlyn Rae after being attacked and infected by rakghouls.

Giselle can bring back individuals who have been frozen to death and then been shattered into pieces. And that's without mentioning what the Cube itself can do. The rakghouls are taken out by the robots who are doing nothing while the others raise defenses (these would include Megas, Moguera, Megatron and the Vision) and then healed/brought back to life before they can do any real damage.

With her high level magic also boosted by the Talsiman she can takes on Rand if he is still around, grabbing his Magic Staff from the air that was TK'd from him or going at it with her own powers(which was able to absorb an entity that gained a universal level of magic power.) She takes him out like this fairly easy as Rand would be mind attacked by multiple people breaking his concentration or teleported out without his staff. She then goes to help with top targets, countering any magic thrown at our team with a incredibly high level of magic power using it to her fullest.

Mordru as in this Mordru?

Well, that's some seriously impressive shit. I'll give you that. But Rand jumps away with the rest of the group, so there are no wizards to consume or magic staffs to steal here.

[Darth Drizzle]

Since their first move is teleportation there is no stopping Phoenix from powering up Rachel/Synch then doing his giant construct/energy drain combo. Everything Robotic runs on power/energy here, and Phoenix takes all that power into himself. Olivaw after portring out then locates everyone and does a "everything proof" sheild, which takes far more time than a world scanning Telepath can think and take control of him(as he cant hide his thoughts anywhere). No Olivaw, no Cube moves happening.

With 4 high level TP attacks coming from top tiers from both the physical and Astral plane most of the opposing team is turned to fight for our cause. Especially the powerful NPC's which join ouir cause, as this TP doesn't need range or sight to work so them teleporting out has no effect on it.

Ultron gets taken out by the sneaking, efficient, and dangerous triple team that includes Goten/Celestial Lday protecting Phylla-Vell as they ninja their way quickly to the giant target and takes him out.

Vision is crushed or TP'd before he can target Moondragon, and she can return from d-dumps via the Astral plane. Demona sees to his and everyone close to him destrction. Megatron/R2D2 get TP'd to fight with us or taken out by the Rhakghoul Agatha and her Tactigon turning on them, energy draining, or telepathy, etc.

Ms Martian gets TP'd to fight for us as no TP defense is tried by her(would fail anyway against this assault), Giselle/Rand gets TP'd or vaporized, or time dumped, or gravity crushed, or teleported across the galaxy. She is targeted by many characters as a top threat, and with energy absorbers/magic drainers and counters all around her she is at a disadvantage going at it solo.

Rand gets his Super Staff ripped away from him and used by the Dark Witch, who even without it can stop/absorb the magic used against my team. Her large scale magic is not accounted for, and with the Staff she would be a beast on the battlefield.

Bender gets TP'd and fights for us, Mags helmet is not absolut and he has 0 mental defense.

Dunbledore cant hit Synch in his dreams and gets taken out early and turned into a Rakghoul along with Obelix, Aragon, Agatha, and Kasper.

[Darth Drizzle]

Originally Posted by Holacik

I gotta say having Ion going after Bender seems like a really really bad move. Larfleeze constructs were absorb Guardian energy attacks and Ion isn't at that level...

Bender is taken over by TP, and fights for us. If that somehow failed then Jade/Mary would attack him, but as he only is protected by Mags helm, 4 high class mental attacks breaks through it easily(1 could).

[Estrecca]

Synch: Gets powered up by Giruad as he goes invisible and activates his Accel unit on top of his boosted PF power/abilities. He uses TP on the minds of the Lost Lanterns around and gets them to fight on his side or KO's them if they somehow resist. Then he teleports the trapped Lanterns inside the Highmaster/Manhunter bots far away leaving the giant robots without batteries. He invisibly moves/attacks with ruthless force as he blocks and counters any unforseen moves with Omega TK and top grade speed, taking on top level robots still around, and TK'ng people into Phoenixs large energy aura to burn.

Synch is getting paralyzed by Dumbledore before he can activate the Accelerator and disintegrated at the molecular level by Megatron in the initial second of the match, so nothing of what he is supposed to do actually happens (including the recruitment of the Lost Lanterns, which could have given you a very convenient boost).

Ion Mary/Jade: Target Bender at the start, and if he is not Mind controlled they quickly take him out with Jade using her vastly superior Lantern skills/experiance as Mary smashes through anything he quickly tries to make. With the Manhunters limited ability to take in larg energy amounts energy Jade and Mary overload and smash any that try to catch them. Toghether they go and energy drain/blast/smash their way across the battlefield, using their Ion boosted powers all out against what seems like the planet itself. They get to Ultron and lay the beatin gon him with Jade manipulating his energy while Mary superspeeds in and out with her raw power taking it to him physically. Toghether they take down the Leader of the group, making thier teams jobs easier. They go on to help with top targets afterwards.

Taking down an experienced Lantern like Bender has become at this point simply cannot be done in a second. Period. Particularly with the power of orange light to drain green. Mongul with half a dozen Yellow power rings and near Superman stats needed a long beatdown to seriously hurt Sinestro... even though Sinestro spent about half of that fight telling Jordan, Carol Ferris and Indigo 1 not to get involved in the internal business of HIS Corps.

Also, attempts to attack Ultron physically are going to result in the Motherbox detecting this and boomtubing Mary Marvel and Jade straight to a black hole. Have fun with that.

Lil Hal: Makes his Beta Ray Bill construct around himself(life sized, similar stats) and charges in at the Manhunters, going all out on all of them. When Synch TK's out any Lantern bodies he grabs the rings and puts them on himself/Mary boosting thier powers further. He helps people who need it, charging in and doing dirt.

Actually, if you try to take away the rings of the Lost Lanterns, the Ring AI will determine that since Lil'Hal already has one he doesn't need any more and either start looking for another candidate in Biot (who could be any member of my team or yours) or, more likely, fly to Oa or Mojo for reassignment.

Goten/Phylla-Vell/Celestial Lady: Using their secret weapon Goten goes Super Saiyan and invisible then joins the Celetial Lady and Phylla-Vell as they race off towards Ultron.

Intercepted by Super 17 (who is stronger than Goten by many orders of magnitude) or plain boomtubed by the Motherbox.

Also, the fusion never actually happens, because Miss Martian targets one of the earrings before it can be completed and Giselle sends one of the fusees to another dimension.

Getting the jump on Ultron they use their secret weapon the Ebony Blade wielded by Vell which was what killed Ultron in Annihilation Conquest. With all the major attacks going on, no one would see the special ops force sneaking in for the game sealing kill.

Err... No.

As far as I know, the Ebony Blade wasn't involved in the slightest in Annihilation Conquest. Phylla-Vell killed Ultron, yes, but she did it by using the Quantum Bands to channel the souls of a billion Kree who had been sacrificed to power Phalanx technology. She doesn't have the Quantum Bands or a billion souls here to kill Ultron. Or the help of Wraith to keep Ultron's consciousness inside his body.

And Phylla-Vell is getting blasted with the encephalo-beam anyway, so...

[Captain Morgan]

Just to point out, having multiple Lantern rings does not boost power.

[Estrecca]

Originally Posted by Captain Morgan

Just to point out, having multiple Lantern rings does not boost power.

Then, why did Mongul bother to accumulate half a dozen of them for his own personal use and how did he manage to stalemate five-siz GL on his own in the Black Mercy planet?

Because, frankly, I've seen the claim before, but everything I've read in the Green Lantern comics so far seems to suggest that there is a correlation between number of rings and power output. If something has been stated contradicting this, I'd be interested in knowing.

[The Once And Forever]

Originally Posted by Estrecca

Then, why did Mongul bother to accumulate half a dozen of them for his own personal use and how did he manage to stalemate five-siz GL on his own in the Black Mercy planet?

Because, frankly, I've seen the claim before, but everything I've read in the Green Lantern comics so far seems to suggest that there is a correlation between number of rings and power output. If something has been stated contradicting this, I'd be interested in knowing.

Because Mongul made a point to tell everyone who had a ring that he could find this:

"You serve me, or I kill you."

He was not joking. He was able to stalemate five GLs because the guy knows everything there is to know about his ring. Using the same rings, when Hal was loading like ten yellow rings and went against Sinestro(who only has one), Hal got pwned.

Hard. It's about mastery, for some reason Hal just has a hard on for getting all of the rings.

[Captain Morgan]

Originally Posted by Estrecca

Then, why did Mongul bother to accumulate half a dozen of them for his own personal use and how did he manage to stalemate five-siz GL on his own in the Black Mercy planet?

I would argue it was more of a psych out thing; it's a direct reminder to Sinestro Corp members he wants to recruit that he can casually kill them and take their rings. Mongul is just fucking beast, as for how he took on multiple Lanterns- his base powers enhanced by the ring are just scary.

Because, frankly, I've seen the claim before, but everything I've read in the Green Lantern comics so far seems to suggest that there is a correlation between number of rings and power output. If something has been stated contradicting this, I'd be interested in knowing.

It's a mildly inconsistent issue, as every now and then someone gets all excited when they nab multiple rings (a la Hal in Emerald Twilight, during his attacking Oa phase.) But here's the thing: GL rings have demonstrated in the past that they can duplicate themselves, and on the fly at that. Why wouldn't Lantern's bling themselves out if it boosted their power?

As an example, during the New Corps, when Kyle has a duplicating ring, he makes rings for his alien companions to fight with. The four armed alien with him points out he has 3 more ring fingers, and Kyle cracks up and gives him more rings- mostly for comedic value. Everyone else just uses one.

Plus, think about it. A Green Lantern ring requires focusing your will through to work- it's only as powerful as your own mind. Having multiple rings means trying to focus that will through multiple objects, splitting your focus, lessening the effectiveness of each individual ring. You wind up with the same amount of will at the end of the day, with perhaps less likely hood of the ring running out of juice on you.

As an analogy, it's like carrying eight revolvers instead of two. You can still only effectively aim and shoot two at a time, but if nothing else you don't have to reload when one runs out of ammo.

For further evidence, there was Sinestro casually owning Hal when Hal had multiple fear rings at once. Sinestro simply knew how to manipulate fear better- having multiple conduits didn't matter. (And this wasn't portrayed as Sinestro using the fail safe, just being more competent with them than Hal.) And of course, if their are excessive spare rings just laying around Qward, to where Hal can just pick them up off a table, that begs the question: why doesn't Sinestro or any of his top men use more than one?

[Randy Mandy]

Phew!

I'm glad to see that Darth Drizzle managed to get online long enough to demolish Estrecca's strat, because today is being impossible and I only have fifteen minutes or so to be here, before going back to the labs.

Anybody has doubts about my characters?

[Randy Mandy]

Originally Posted by WyldCard4

MISS MARTIAN, as usual, protects the more fragile meatbags. If she doesn't have anything better to do, she'll try to destroy the enemy Potara Earrings before the fusion can be completed with a couple of well placed heat vision blasts. Mary Marvel is a secondary target for this, too.

This is starting to annoy me, since I bought the earrings because I thought that my characters started the fight fused. I've had two matches counting this one and this has been used in both of them.

Both earrings together cost twelve points (a lot!) and they have limited usefulness in comparison with any ten points item. So, I ask: what's the consensus? Do my characters start fused or unfused?