Batman v. Green Arrow

[mgs]

Bruce Wayne v. Oliver Queen....in a FOOTRACE!!!!

Who would win?


A. They must start out with all their equipment and such, as if they were headed into battle, BUT they CANNOT use equipment to RUN the race, including specialized shoes/boots/sneakers. They cannot win except by running, with their own bodies and their own legs. They can strip out of gear as they run the race though.

B. They are both 32 years old. Old battle wounds, age, etc, all accounted for. But have full use of their complete (i.e., 2 legs/arms, etc) bodies and are mentally competent.

C. Length of race is approx. 8 miles. The race starts on the I-95 in Maine where it crosses over Hartland Ave. and ends when it crosses over Roussin Rd. (see map). The seasonal conditions are what they are now, at this place, during the daytime.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=...r&source=embed

D. They can only run the race to win. They cannot touch or 'battle' in any way.

[Becoming An Anthropologist]

Originally Posted by mgs

Bruce Wayne v. Oliver Queen....in a FOOTRACE!!!!

Who would win?


A. They must start out with all their equipment and such, as if they were headed into battle, BUT they CANNOT use equipment to RUN the race, including specialized shoes/boots/sneakers. They cannot win except by running, with their own bodies and their own legs. They can strip out of gear as they run the race though.

B. They are both 32 years old. Old battle wounds, age, etc, all accounted for. But have full use of their complete (i.e., 2 legs/arms, etc) bodies and are mentally competent.

C. Length of race is approx. 8 miles. The race starts on the I-95 in Maine where it crosses over Hartland Ave. and ends when it crosses over Roussin Rd. (see map). The seasonal conditions are what they are now, at this place, during the daytime.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=...r&source=embed

D. They can only run the race to win. They cannot touch or 'battle' in any way.

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Bataman trains more constantly, and I'm sure he has better stamina related fights. So I guess he wins all scenerio's.

Now, if this was fight to pick up ladies I'd think we'd have something.

[Sharpandpointies]

Batman. Greater speed, greater endurance.

[Holacik]

Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies

Batman. Greater speed, greater endurance.

Doesn't ollie have some trick arrows?

[Sharpandpointies]

Originally Posted by Holacik

Doesn't ollie have some trick arrows?

...you didn't read the OP, did you? :D

[Lasko8734]

Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies

Batman. Greater speed, greater endurance.

sounds about right

[Holacik]

Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies

...you didn't read the OP, did you? :D

That's what I get for skimming.

[mgs]

Originally Posted by Becoming An Anthropologist

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Bataman trains more constantly, and I'm sure he has better stamina related fights. So I guess he wins all scenerio's.

Now, if this was fight to pick up ladies I'd think we'd have something.

Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies

Batman. Greater speed, greater endurance.

true. but I've yet to see a fighter who is any good at actual running. and with him and all his injuries, would those account for anything?

i mean, without PIS, I don't think Bruce is very fast. Yes in comics and all, he can appear behind, then ahead of opponents, but i don't think that's cause he's a fast runner and he must start out with a lot heavier equip than Ollie.

Speaking of which, Archers have great strength, and are usually not so musclebound and once in battle would have tremendous lung capacity and cardio systems to properly be archers., so, would that help? but archers must also concentrate, slowly and breath, are the used to setting up quick, then slowing down, then quick again? can he run so far, even for a superhero, and beat Bruce?

[Sharpandpointies]

Originally Posted by mgs

true. but I've yet to see a fighter who is any good at actual running. and with him and all his injuries, would those account for anything?

i mean, without PIS, I don't think Bruce is very fast. Yes in comics and all, he can appear behind, then ahead of opponents, but i don't think that's cause he's a fast runner and he must start out with a lot heavier equip than Ollie.

Except we see Bruce running pretty darned fast all the time. He can hold his breath for something like four minutes (referenced in JLA). And despite his size and muscularity, he demonstrates speed, agility, and flexibility on the Peak Human level.

It's a comic book. Things are a little different. :)

Speaking of which, Archers have great strength, and are usually not so musclebound and once in battle would have tremendous lung capacity and cardio systems to properly be archers., so, would that help? but archers must also concentrate, slowly and breath, are the used to setting up quick, then slowing down, then quick again? can he run so far, even for a superhero, and beat Bruce?

Given that martial artists train to fight while breathing evenly, if we're going to pull out the breathing technique stuff....

But you get what you train for. Sure, training to fight and loose arrows will help with running endurance, but running training trumps both of those when it comes to running.

And Bruce? He spends night after night running, leaping, and sprinting over Gotham's rooftops.

I'll give the running endurance thing to him.

[mgs]

Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies

Except we see Bruce running pretty darned fast all the time. He can hold his breath for something like four minutes (referenced in JLA). And despite his size and muscularity, he demonstrates speed, agility, and flexibility on the Peak Human level.

It's a comic book. Things are a little different. :)



Given that martial artists train to fight while breathing evenly, if we're going to pull out the breathing technique stuff....

But you get what you train for. Sure, training to fight and loose arrows will help with running endurance, but running training trumps both of those when it comes to running.

And Bruce? He spends night after night running, leaping, and sprinting over Gotham's rooftops.

I'll give the running endurance thing to him.

fair enough, fair enough. you make good points.

but I'm stilll going with, Bruce is not a fast runner, by any means. without things to jump on or over or whatever, someone who can run will outrun him in a straight dash.

[Black Francis]

I'd don't think I've ever seen Ollie run actually, but I'm sure he has I just can't recall.

[Spidey-kid1]

Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies

...you didn't read the OP, did you? :D

Then again, the OP also says old battle wounds and what not account for, which has never been done in a comic, and I'm reasonably sure batmans taken some beatings that should somewhat hinder his performance in the long run.

Ollie probably has too, but not like Bats has.

[mgs]

Originally Posted by Black Francis

I'd don't think I've ever seen Ollie run actually, but I'm sure he has I just can't recall.

Originally Posted by Spidey-kid1

Then again, the OP also says old battle wounds and what not account for, which has never been done in a comic, and I'm reasonably sure batmans taken some beatings that should somewhat hinder his performance in the long run.

Ollie probably has too, but not like Bats has.

these are some things I was thinking when I made this thread.

[Sharpandpointies]

Originally Posted by Spidey-kid1

Then again, the OP also says old battle wounds and what not account for, which has never been done in a comic, and I'm reasonably sure batmans taken some beatings that should somewhat hinder his performance in the long run.

Ollie probably has too, but not like Bats has.

The problem about that is we have no way to judge. Old battle wounds? Which ones?

I have no means to judge that. Bruce seems to be in 100% excellent shape despite his battle wounds. Unrealistic, yes, but once we start trying to estimate which one of them is in worse shape due to these things (Bruce with his far better physical conditioning versus Ollie with less old injuries), it becomes a 'write whatever you want' scenario.