What in God's Name Happened to Rogue?

[Bullets& Bracelets]

Seriously. What happened to Rogue? I remember as a child, watching the 90s X-Men cartoon when I was first introduced to our favorite Southern Belle. Like Wonder Woman, I was enthused at seeing a warrior woman with superpowers kick un-holy ass to whoever was foolish enough to stand in her path.

Seeing a woman with a green headband and Alabama accent knock a giant robot on it's ass awed me and Rogue became my second favorite X-Man (sorry, Storm is first and boy does she have her problems....)



Strong. Sassy. Bold. Fierce. Beautiful. Over the years, I enjoyed watching Rogue punch villains through buildings with a smile and her patented 'Sugah'. Though Rogue suffered from the curse of not being able to touch someone without potentially killing them and a dark past, she always tried to look at the bright side of things and did her best to be the life of the party.

Than this bitch came along:



Thanks to the X-Men movies, Rogue was drastically changed from what her core character used to be.

Gone was her fun-loving personality. Gone was her sassy attitude. Gone was her "punch first, ask questions later" persona.

In place, Rogue was abducted and replace by a emo, whiny, constantly frowning little girl who couldn't fight her way outta a wet paper bag if her life depended on it.

Thanks to the X-Men movies, we also got goth-punk Rogue:



Gone was her flight. Gone was her super-strength. Gone was her combat skills. Nope, this Rogue depended on everyone else and acted like she was one step away from a suicide ward and a room full of black candles.

And unfortunately, her yesteryear days of ass-kicking Rogue has been replaced in favor of emo-Rogue.

Nowadays, Rogue is a shadow of her former self. She's always sad. She's always complaining. Since when was the last time we saw the girl SMILE for once?

Please, Marvel. Bring back Rogue!

[Mechano]

anna paqoain(sp) is hot.

[Washout]

Before I start this rant, I will say that Marvel just rebooted her powers and gave her control, which I enjoy a lot. We are told that we don't know that much about her powers, so here's hoping.

Okay. . . let's go.

Mike Carey is doing his best. We'll never see Ms. Marvel Rogue again, but he has implied that she may be strong again. I'll never understand Marvel's reasoning for holding back such a popular character. No she isn't strong in the movies, but she was awful in the movies (the character, not the actress).

I'm not saying she needs her strength and flight to be great because she still is, but it is silly to just toss away her iconic powerset.

Oh, well, I guess. She's still pretty amazing under Carey's pen.

[Bullets& Bracelets]

Originally Posted by Washout

[I I'll never understand Marvel's reasoning for holding back such a popular character. No she isn't strong in the movies, but she was awful in the movies (the character, not the actress).

I'm not saying she needs her strength and flight to be great because she still is, but it is silly to just toss away her iconic powerset.
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IMO, she needs her iconic powerset. It's HER powers. I can't imagine Rogue without them.

Get rid of the flight? Sure, I wouldn't mind. But Rogue is a brawler. She likes to physically get into the heat of battle and sledgehammer whom ever stands in her way.

And Rogue in the movie was terrible. She was a weak, emotional, and plain stupid little girl through-out all the movies. Her best moment was stopping Pyro. That's it.

They shoulda had Sarah Michelle Gellar play her when she was originally cast.

[coveredinbees]

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[Perfection/Emma 2]

Brawler Rogue is dead which is beyond sad, but hey what can we do? At least Carey is writing her and doing a pretty good job

[Goshin]

I miss ass-whuppin' 80s and 90s Rogue too. She shoulda kept half of Ares Strength as a god he still has plenty.

I think she'll get flight and strength back eventually.

I say let her run around with the exiles for six months, absorb a alternate carol danvers and come back.....

[Mechano]

Originally Posted by coveredinbees

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good lord!!! it had taken me years to get those awful images out of my mind, and then you go and do that.

[Bullets& Bracelets]

Originally Posted by coveredinbees

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Ah, yes. One of the last good writings of Rogue. Even when she was going through that ridiculous Skrull-thing.

Than she lost her powers. Than Chuck Austen was writing her....UGH

[Goshin]

I knew about Rogue's strength and flight before I knew she touched people that was an added bonus.

Non-Ms Marvel Rogue is like Wolverine without his claws Cap without his shield, or a white Nightcrawler with no tail

[coveredinbees]

Rogue got into a brawlish type with Moonstone. She lost, but it was still a nice looking fist fight. She beat Ares with the help of Danger and threw away H.A.M.M.E.R. soldiers after. She's as great as ever.

[Swashbuckler]

When I saw the OP's username I wanted to immediately respond "Hun, ROgue isn't Wonder Woman, get over it", but then I read the first post and remembered why I first fell in love with Rogue. I am not a big fan of her these days because I'm tired of the way she's portrayed when before she was showen to have been past her humps. Like others have said though, Carey's handling has been great so far. I want to see her battling more with suprises, maybe not with super-strength, but big attacks that no one expects. And I'd love her bomber jacket to come back. I loved it. Also, more "Sugah" please.

[sbo]

Why marvel took such a popular ass-kicking character and removed everything about her that made her so popular i'll never know.

Let's take a superstrong fighter and trun her into a weakling that can't win a fight if her life depended on it.

Let's not actualy make her character do anything in the movies except cry, run for her life, and get saved by wolverine.

And let's take her classic, sexy, and immediately recognizable costume and replace it with some hideous baggy attire that you'd normally find on a monk.

The result is the almost complete ruination of this character.

[RoguefanAM]

warning, tl;dr post

Hate Movie Rogue all you want (I think it's justified as well), but Evo Rogue was fine. In Evolution, Rogue had a strong personality, the same no nonsense attitude that I'd adored from 616 Rogue. She'd get in your face if she thought you were wrong and would call you out. She didn't depend on anyone and she wasn't suicidal. Despite her goth persona, I don't really remember her complaining much. Most of her angsting was about Mystique, and she proved she was willing to do something about that when she pushed Mystique's statue off a cliff (basically showed she was willing to kill her). She was a girl of action, despite her appearance.

To be honest, ignoring the homage to classic Rogue in her costume, WatXM Rogue is the whiney and overly-dependent one. Her relationship with Logan makes me cringe. She had a similar mentor-father relationship with Logan in Evolution, but it wasn't nearly as bad.

I do miss her strength and more brawler-like/fun personality, but Carey is doing ok. I think it'd help if Carey gave her a physical power, if only to highlight to weaker writers that she is a different character from movie Rogue.

[batGRRRl4ever]

Originally Posted by Bullets& Bracelets

Seriously. What happened to Rogue?

In place, Rogue was abducted and replace by a emo, whiny, constantly frowning little girl who couldn't fight her way outta a wet paper bag if her life depended on it.

Nowadays, Rogue is a shadow of her former self. She's always sad. She's always complaining. Since when was the last time we saw the girl SMILE for once?

Ummm, actually for those of us who remember reading her BEFORE she even joined the X-Men and primarily was showing up in Dazzler and Rom when she was with the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, what you described WAS the way she was almost always depicted, so in essence she IS going back to her original pre-x-men roots.