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Old 09-15-2009, 05:46 PM   #1
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Rumblers League 3: Week 6, D1, Match 3 - KJS1982 & fudgekp v Froggy & Josh M
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KJS1982 & fudgekp
The Shadow Masters

Chucky (1) + Sinestro Corps Ring (10) & The Mask (9)
Absorbing Man (8) + Ghost's Battlesuit (4), One Ring (5), Inviso-Belt (3) & Adamantium Boots (2)
Rayne (5) + Gem Of Amara (1) & Sandals of Hermes (3)
Dalek Caan (6) + Zettabyte of Internet Data (1)
Psimon (6) + Tripod (5) w/ Motherbox (10)
Dracula (6) + Gem of Amara (1), Inviso-Belt (3) & Epic Force Great Wyrm Dragon Corpse (5) w/ Borg Nanoprobes (3)
Dr. Doom (8) + Zettabyte of Internet Data (1), One Ring (5) & Wand of Watoomb (7)

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Froggy & Josh M
Super Sexy Slumber Party!!!

Monkey (9) + Magneto's Psychic Resistant Helmet (4)
Zatanna (7) + Telepathy Blocking Ear Plugs (4), Amulet Of Opposite Alignment (1) & One Ring (5)
Voldemort (5) + Sinestro Corps Ring (10), Elder Wand (4) & Phoenix Gate (6)
Lucy (5) + Boots of Teleportation (3), Lost Room Glass Eye (8) & Invisible Man's Formula (2)
Elixir (1) + Tiger Talisman (2), Banshee (5) & Sandals of Hermes (3)
Sophie Cuckoo (2)
Esme Cuckoo (2) + Space Worms (4)
Havok (5) + Cosmic Converter Belt (5)
King Kong (4)

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Strategy: Happy Mother's Day!
Venue: Savage Land.

KJS1982 & fudgekp
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Super Sexy Slumber Party!!!

THE STRATEGY

Part 1
All moves happen concurrently at the bell as fast as they can be carried out.
The aim here, as always, is to ensure that every opponent is beaten in multiple ways.

Psimon Vs The Cuckoo Duo
The Tripod now has its own intelligence, thanks to the installation of the Motherbox. This basically means that Psimon no longer has to control the machine - effectively leaving him a passenger inside the shell. With this newfound freedom, Psimon devotes all his power into mentally attacking Sophie and Esme. Psimon's power has proven to be far greater than the combined might of two Cuckoos, which effectively means Psimon has "out psychiced the psychics" (he will mind-rape them and, if necessary, use TK to take them apart at an atomic level).
Out: Sophie & Esme Cuckoo

Motherpod Vs Voldemort
Motherpod, now a sentient being/character in its own right, targets and destroys Voldemort with a Motherbox enhanced barrage of ridiculously powerful disintegration beams. The Motherbox has enhanced machines to be able to tag superspeedsters such as Flash, so targeting and destroying Voldemort before he can react shouldn't be a problem in the slightest.
Motherpod will make physical attacks on her and Psimon impossible by opening boomtubes in front of the point of impact (so any opponents flying at her, or any blasts aiming to hit her will find a boom tube opening just as they are about to hit - although even if they do hit, the forcefields have been updated with Apokoliptian technology).
Out: Voldemort

The Masked Chuckestro & Bride of Chuckestro Vs Monkey (And Everyone Else)
Wearing ring-created TP proof ear-plugs, The Masked Chuckestro speeds on his hoverbike (at these speeds) and mows down the entire opposition, ensuring Monkey is dead centre in his sights (far faster than Monkey can react). The hoverbike will have a huge construct attached to the front of it (like a shovel on the front of a JCB) wide enough to take out the whole team. Whoever this doesn't take down will be wrapped in a lasso construct which, added to the Crimson Bands, will render any survivors totally useless. He will then beat the shit out of them, biting heads off, smacking them down etc, whilst they are restrained (starting with Monkey, if he's not dead, which he should be).
Note that the oncoming shovel will also serve as a shield from blasts to our entire team (not that any blasts will be getting off before our moves).
The construct version of The Bride of Chucky will follow The Masked Chuckestro and smack down anyone who somehow survives this attack with her big fucking construct knife.
Out: Monkey & Potentially Everyone

Dalek Caan Vs Voldemort (And Everyone Else)
Heavily shielded, Dalek Caan quickly takes to the skies, using his sophisticated targeting system to fire his death-ray at Voldemort (just to open him up more so, if necessary, to utterly ensure the Tripod messes him up). From his high position, Caan will then target anyone causing trouble.
Out: Voldemort & Potentially Others

Doom of Watoomb Vs Zatanna
Doom knows exactly who he must disable. Reacting at speeds far faster than his target, Doom encases Zatanna in Crimson Bands that cover her body and her mouth, preventing movement and speech. Doom is far, far above Zatanna now. His ownership of the One Ring makes him able to see Zatanna, and the magical boost provided by the Wand of Watoomb, coupled with Doom's far greater reaction time, means that not only will Doom get the spell off before Zatanna can cast anything, but she'll remain tied up in them. Doom, while using the wand to absorb any magical attacks directed at him off his allies, proceeds to teleport to Zatanna and blast her with an energy blast.

Out: Zatanna
N.B. Doom has just had an enormous boost in the comics, meaning he is well above Zatanna (even without his items). With his items, he destroys her with contemptuous ease.

Absorbing Ghost Protects
Creel, invisible, absorbs his adamantium boots and the properties of the Apokoliptian shields and grows to enormous size as he does so. He will be an uber-defensive wall, serving as our protector, invisibly wandering around in a gigantic, unbreakable state, battering helpless opponents if they cause any trouble.
Out: Potentially Anyone
N.B. The only way Creel can possibly be beaten in this form is via mind-attacks, and they won't happen thanks to Psimon seeing off the Cuckoo's with ease.

Rayne Vs Elixir & Lucy
In her timeslow, Rayne goes after Elixir and Lucy. Both of these are Sandals of Hermes speed or considerably slower. Rayne is Sandals of Hermes speed multiplied by 100 in her timeslow.
She speeds at them and slices and dices them into pieces. She'll decapitate them, cut them in half vertically and horizontally, and render them limbless.
Out: Elixir & Lucy
N.B. With her uber-speed, Rayne shouldn't even need to use it (due to only needing to see boots and a glass eye to identify Lucy), but if necessary she will indeed use her aura-vision to see Lucy.
Also N.B. Rayne will target any clones made (although no clones will have a chance to be made due to the numerous ways Elixir is killed).

Sally Vs Havok & King Kong
Sally, being invisible, having a 50% hit chance aura and awesome durability targets Havok (who will be occupied in various other ways, if not dead), flying through him with ease. Sally then engages King Kong in what would be a visually stunning battle - if Kong could compare to Sally in power. Sally quickly bites Kong's head off and flies upwards.
Out: Havok & King Kong

Dracula Vs Everyone
Dracula jumps off Sally, tapping his Inviso-Belt at the same time. Remaining hidden and shielded, Dracula prowls aroud the battlefield mentally commanding Dinosaurs and other weak willed creatures in the vicinity to attack his opponents. Note that like the battle when Kong was faced earlier in the season, Dracula will probably control King Kong as well.
Out: Nobody in Particular (But Potentially Everyone)
Taken Over: King Kong & NPCs
Points of Note: An army of dinosaurs, mutates and other nearby Savage Land NPCs, coupled with King Kong, are attacking the opposition

Quick Recap
- Several of our team members have scattered into new positions/made themselves untouchable. This will disrupt our opponent's strategy in a huge way.
- Every Opponent: Mowed down by Chucky.
- Every Opponent: Attacked by Dracula's NPC army.
- Every Opponent: Attacked by King Kong.
- Every Opponent: On the radar of the invisible, indestructable Creel.
- Every Opponent: Being monitored and blasted accordingly by Caan.
- Monkey: Casually destroyed by Chucky (after being mowed down by him), attacked by NPCs and King Kong, attacked by Creel if needed, blasted by Caan.
- Zatanna: Wrapped in Crimson Bands (mouth included), mowed down by Chucky, attacked by NPCs and King Kong, attacked by Creel if needed, blasted by Caan.
- Voldemort: Blasted by the Motherpod, blasted by Caan (he's first), attacked by NPCs and King Kong, attacked by Creel if needed.
- Lucy: Blitzed by Rayne, attacked by NPCs and King Kong, attacked by Creel if needed, blasted by Caan.
- Elixir: Blitzed by Rayne, attacked by NPCs and King Kong, attacked by Creel if needed, blasted by Caan.
- Sophie Cuckoo: Mentally destroyed by Psimon, attacked by NPCs and King Kong, attacked by Creel if needed, blasted by Caan.
- Esme Cuckoo: Mentally destroyed by Psimon, attacked by NPCs and King Kong, attacked by Creel if needed, blasted by Caan.
- Havok: Destroyed by Sally, attacked by NPCs and King Kong, attacked by Creel if needed, blasted by Caan.
- King Kong: Controlled by Dracula into attacking his own team at first, before being subjected to the same treatment as everyone else.
- Take into account how many bases are being covered. If one attack doesn't work, for whatever reason, just look how many others there are.
- N.B. "Every Opponent" includes any clones made.
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:48 PM   #3
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Part 2
Happening immediately after part 1 (a second or so after):

Psimon
Will hold any survivors in place using both mind-control and telekinesis, so that others can beat them easily. He will also mind-rape them and take them apart at an atomic level.
Out: Any survivors

Motherpod
She will stomp around (faster than usual) blasting people, still opening boomtubes in any places where she is about to get hit (so that the character/projectile ends up inside it).
Out: Any survivors

The Masked Chuckestro & His Bride
Zips around at crazy speed biting restrained survivors' heads off (1 & 2).
Meanwhile, his bride (now a permanent fixture by his side) will help out whoever needs help the most. She will slash the troublesome opponents with a big construct knife.
Out: Any Survivors

Dalek Caan
Now high up and heavily shielded, he targets the heads of any restrained/occupied survivors with his death ray.
Out: Any Survivors

Doom
Begins his regular mopping up by summoning a tide of Mindless Ones to demolish survivors.
Out: Any Survivors

Absorbing Ghost
Still invisible, he stays in his adamantium/Motherpod shield form and pummels restrained survivors.
Out: Any Survivors

Rayne
Blitzes around in a timeslow at epic speeds, chopping off the heads of remaining restrained/occupied opponents.
Out: Any Survivors

Dracula
Keeps the NPC onslaught flowing, controlling the massive amount of Savage Land inhabitants into attacking the surviving opponents.
Out: Any Survivors

Sally
Flies around biting restrained survivors, blasting them with a cone of force if need be.
Out: Any Survivors

Quick Recap
- All survivors (if any, which is unlikely) will still be wrapped in Crimson Bands and a Yellow lasso construct, and should be asleep.
- Psimon: Holds survivors in place with TP and TK and destroys them.
- Motherpod: Stomps around blasting survivors with new, epic firepower, remaining same the whole time.
- Absorbing Ghost: Beats survivors to death with his invisible, adamantium/Motherpod shield body.
- Masked Chuckestro & Bride: Chucky zips around biting heads off, his Bride helps whoever needs it.
- Dalek Caan: Exterminates survivors from above, whilst shielded.
- Doom: Summoning Mindless Ones to do his bidding.
- Rayne: Blitzes around, decapitating survivors.
- Dracula: Keeps controlling NPCs into attacking survivors.
- Sally: Eats survivors and uses a cone of force if necessary.
- Every single opponent is under a barrage of attacks. There are so many ways for them to fall.

Out of the Match: Super Sexy Slumber Party!!!

Contingencies and Notes
General
- Please bear in mind how many bases we cover. If you think 1 attack fails, countless others are occurring at the same time on every single opponent.
- Remember, no one on the opposing team can actually see Sally, Creel or Doom from the bell. Dracula soon follows.
- Everyone defends themselves to the best of their ability and are capable of adapting to accomodate surprise moves.
- Everyone actively avoids dimension dumps.
- If anyone gets d-dumped, everyone capable of returning will return (anyone incapable of doing so will be brought back by Doom).
- Sally is invisible and has a magical aura only allowing only 50% of all attacks to hit her (and even then, it has to penetrate her hide).
- Creel can already absorb multiple things at once and absorbed Sentry's powers before Sentry purposely overloaded him, so this will be no problem with the One Ring boosting his absorbing abilities.
- For detailed scientific information about Rayne's epic speed with the Sandals of Hermes in a timeslow, go here.

- For more information about Sally's impressive vital statistics, go here.
Specific to Dr. Doom
- Remember, Doom's invisible, magically amped and protected to epic levels, impossible to hack and mentally impossible to affect. If he somehow gets physically hit, he will still be able to work his magic easily.
- If Doom gets hit (unlikely), bear in mind his durability and feats for redirecting, absorbing, transmuting and no-selling, which he will do here if necessary.
- If Doom is physically touched (or if anyone gets too close), he will deliver 500,000 megavolts to the offender. This has effortlessly downed The Thing.
- If Doom feels he is in criticial danger, he will perform an Ovoid mind-transfer with the strongest remaining opponent. This assures his survival.
- Anyone approaching Doom will be repelled like so.
- Reminder of Doom's thought speed, don't! Even when doing more than one thing at a time (his maximum here is 2), he will get them off easily.
- No one is physically powerful enough to break through his armour, he's invisible and his mind is safe.
- He'll return from a dimension dump.
Specific to Chucky
- Chucky's reaction time is epic (amped further by the Yellow Ring). He is also autoshielded, invulnerable in the true sense even without the shields (1 & 2), able to regenerate instantly in the unlikely event that he is harmed (1 & 2), able to return from dimension dumps and resistant to magic etc etc.
- Chuckestro will completely no sell any physical attempts to stop him. And he will indeed laugh at these attempts.
- There is literally no way Chucky can be defeated here. He's too fast and too well protected to be taken out by any of the physical powerhouses and he's TP proof.
- Although the Yellow Ring's autoshields and the general Mask rules should protect from this, if The Mask is removed from Chucky's face, Psimon will use his multi-tasking skills to TK it back on immediately.
- Is Mask Vs Lobo canon? Yes, it is! References were made to previous issues and Mask refers to Lobo in future issues. As is Mask Vs Joker, where Mask is buried at Ipkiss' grave, when he died in a non-crossover issue.
Specific to Psimon & Motherpod
- Psimon mind-controlled Kyle Rayner from thousands of miles away whilst using complex transmutation powers on Gizmo to shrink him to sub-atomic size, and also controlled Kyle Rayner whilst mind-raping the Teen Titans one by one (scans from pages 10, 11 and 21 of a comic in which Kyle was mind-controlled for a whole issue). Multi-tasking is no problem at all.
- Psimon is protected by the Motherpod's shield, which will protect him against high end physical attacks. Not to mention the hull of the Motherpod itself (and of course there's the boomtube openings).
- From 2.19 onwards, a reminder of what the Tripod blasts did to people and how tough the shields are (particularly last few seconds). With added Motherbox tech, it will be eons above what that video shows (added durability, added firepower and extra abilities).
- Motherpod will protect EVERYONE as best she can.
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:49 PM   #4
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Note: Strategy ordered in a play-by-play, move-by-move format. Items listed in the same paragraph occur at the same time.

Startup:

Zatanna says "Sonid kcatta soef!" Havok flies straight upward. Voldemort blasts Dalek Cann and Psimon. The Cuckoos hit Chucky with a mind blast, which will only stall him long enough for Voldy to show Chucky's "child" to him, causing him a moment of possible instability long enough for Voldemort or someone like zatanna to take advantage with a quick moe or removal. Monkey lifts the Earth from underneath the opposing team.


Notes: Zatanna is wearing the One Ring, protecting her to a certain extent (see below). Zatanna's statement would cause the Savage Land dinosaurs to attack the opponents. Voldemort's blasts would be two beams similar to the one that killed Black Condor in Infinite Crisis #1. Monkey is using telekinesis, as first showcased in the episode Magmanamus.


Striking big:

Havok braces himself with Cosmic Control Belt and fires a blast at the opposition. Kong tosses Elixir and Lucy at the enemy. Cuckoos link up everyone's minds. Voldemort uses Avifors.

Notes: Something akin to Havok's blast here. Havok would aim for Doctor Doom. Zatanna is wearing the One Ring. As shown when Frodo is stabbed by one of the Dark Riders, wearing the ring allows one to see the true forms of those wearing the other rings that were crafted at the same time. Linked with Zatanna's mind, the other team members should be able to see those on the opponent's side who are wearing One Rings. Avifors is a spell turning small objects into birds. Here, Voldemort uses debris and rocks, and (being Voldemort) creates evil birds.


Striking small:

The dinosaurs arrive and attack. Kong leads them. Elixir speedily goes after Absorbing Man. Lucy attacks Rayne, slicing at her with her vectors. Monkey charges after the biggest opponent left standing (particularly Doom, Dracula, or Chucky). Havok flies down onto the battlefield, heading after another of those left standing. Voldemort would target the remaining of those three.

Notes: Given the outpour, Havok is a bit drained. For these purposes, he will attack largely using the Control Belt. For this reason, he will likely go after Dracula (if available).

Clean-up:

Elixir engages Absorbing Man, solidifying and regulating his genetic structure, basically making him a regular human being by depowering him, turning AM into Crusher Creel. Attacks from birds, dinosaurs, and sordid team members converge on all others standing.

Notes: Creel's Invisible belt was likely damaged in one of the earlier assaults, or he himself was covered in enough debris to render him semi-visible. Barring that, Elixir should have the speed to track down even an invisible opponent.




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There are some HUGE problems with our opponent's strategy (such as Psimon's Motherpod not remotely being acknowledged etc), but here we go...

Let's not kid ourselves here, Chucky's move should theoretically kill (or AT LEAST incapacitate) the entire opposing team.

But, for the sake of a more interesting post, let's humour the situation and assume that doesn't happen:

Psimon is totally safe. The Motherpod prevents any physical attack on it (as there is no one fast enough for the boomtubes not to work on) and Psimon would comfortably beat the 2 Cuckoos. Even if he struggled using just TP (which he wouldn't), he has the added advantage of his TK, which he is stated as using (and Chucky's attack would destroy them beforehand anyway, but regardless, Psimon destroys them further).

The Motherpod (now a character in itself) survives comfortably (due to reasons mentioned above) and now absolutely has the power output to destroy its target (especially since Chucky's attack would at least have weakened him).

Chucky would utterly ruin Monkey with contemptuous ease.

Doom would be faster than Zatanna even in a thought battle, but the fact that he merely has to think before she has to SAY something (backwards, nonetheless) makes that battle short (especially as she too will be messed up, if not killed, by Chucky).

Rayne is, unarguably, far too fast for her victims to do squat about her attack. She is literally 100 times faster than the quickest of the 2 of them (although, again, Chucky's attack would mess them up if it didn't kill them before Rayne even got there).

Dracula's army could probably beat some of the weaker characters on their own.

Subsequently, with certain characters definitely surviving (Doom, Psimon, Motherpod, Chucky, Rayne, Creel etc), part 2 would be an easy clean up. Although part 2 shouldn't really be necessary, as from what I see, the opponents are all dead within moments.
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The Motherpod is one of the best item uses. I am not positive it gets through full Sinestro Shields, but it will definitely keep him fairly well occupied.

As a note, I love KJS's naming scheme.
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The Motherpod is one of the best item uses. I am not positive it gets through full Sinestro Shields, but it will definitely keep him fairly well occupied.
Thing is, it's not even acknowledged either.

That's totally, utterly, 100% detrimental for the opposing team for 2 reasons:

1) It's a character now, it needs dealing with otherwise we aren't beaten.
2) It means the blasts that are stated as happening to Psimon simply don't occur.

There's not really much of a case for them to even argue now. We can't be beaten when one of our most powerful "characters" simply isn't mentioned (especially when the "character" in question houses another of our most powerful assets in Psimon).

Also, remember that the shields it is aiming for - they're being hit with the full force of Chucky (a far more powerful lantern, what with his Mask) and Caan's blast, as well as the NPC onslaught etc etc, in addition to the Motherpod blast (which, at base level, was disintegrating targets into nothingness and is now enhanced with Apokoliptian technology).

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Thing is, it's not even acknowledged either.

That's totally, utterly, 100% detrimental for the opposing team for 2 reasons:

1) It's a character now, it needs dealing with otherwise we aren't beaten.
2) It means the blasts that are stated as happening to Psimon simply don't occur.

There's not really much of a case for them to even argue now. We can't be beaten when one of our most powerful "characters" simply isn't mentioned (especially when the "character" in question houses another of our most powerful assets in Psimon).

Also, remember that the shields it is aiming for - they're being hit with the full force of Chucky (a far more powerful lantern, what with his Mask) and Caan's blast, as well as the NPC onslaught etc etc, in addition to the Motherpod blast (which, at base level, was disintegrating targets into nothingness and is now enhanced with Apokoliptian technology).



Thanks.
For this reason I am almost ready to vote for you. Not completely, but you did exceptionally well with the Motherpod and have a generally great strategy.

I'm looking forward to her further use. If for no other reason than to steal your better moves with her for my personal use.
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Well hell, forgetting to take on the second most powerful member of our team is kinda bad.

Um...I don't really know what else to say that KJ hasn't already, to be honest. Dooms faster on the draw, the Motherpod has enough weaponry to very quickly incapacitate Voldemort (Imagine the disintegration beam, amped to uber powerful levels thanks to the box, and firing at a rate capable of tagging flash...) and um, that's it...
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I'd also like to point out that:

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Zatanna says "Sonid kcatta soef!"
Takes longer than Dooms attack

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Havok flies straight upward
Means he doesn't target anyone from the get go - while Havok gets attacked from the start
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Also just realised that Rayne, Doom, Dracula, Sally and Creel aren't mentioned at all in part 1.

And the whole ground lifting thing (which won't happen anyway due to Monkey being dead) wouldn't actually affect any of them in the slightest. Rayne bombs forward and can fly, Doom teleports away, Sally bombs forward and can fly etc etc...

Then in part 2 (by which time the person meant to be blasting him is long dead), Doom is merely blasted by someone who a) can't see him and b) wouldn't hurt him at all even if it hit him (but given our contingencies for Doom being blasted, there's no way it's hitting him).
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Bumping again.

Guys, this always happens - me and fudge are always online all day (fudge for 8+ hours) and then he has to leave (which is in less than an hour's time).

And then, the questions start coming in!

While fudge is here, and I can see you guys online, get some questions/issues across now!
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Old 09-16-2009, 08:45 AM   #14
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Unless I get a very convincing arguement from Froggy, and Josh, I'm voting you.
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Bumping again.

Guys, this always happens - me and fudge are always online all day (fudge for 8+ hours) and then he has to leave (which is in less than an hour's time).

And then, the questions start coming in!

While fudge is here, and I can see you guys online, get some questions/issues across now!
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