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yotaruvegeta · 07-28-2009, 03:46 PM

Who was Falcone? Was that when Batman comes inside the club and is fighting off people? I know he's not Eric Roberts' character.

I think there were a lot of tense moments in TDK. I didn't know that they would kill off Rachel Dawes or that Joker set up the judge, DA (or was it the mayor?) , etc.

I don't think that the two boat scene was tense at all, because I couldn't see them killing a boat full of people, and Batman was in for a W in his column at that point in the movie. Still, I really wanted it to happen, just for a change.

TDK even shocked me when one of the fake Batmen was hung and he was swung off the building. I also loved the video of Joker when he held the fake Batman hostage. That was creepy.

OK, so maybe to get some idea if this movie could be overrated, what's your score for the film? IMDB now has it at 8.9 for user reviews. I go for a solid 9.0

NickGuy · 07-28-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by yotaruvegeta

Who was Falcone?

did you even watch Batman Begins?

Mr Omnis · 07-28-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by yotaruvegeta

Who was Falcone? Was that when Batman comes inside the club and is fighting off people? I know he's not Eric Roberts' character.

Eric Roberts was Maroni.

yotaruvegeta · 07-28-2009, 04:45 PM

Yeah [sir] I did watch the movie. Maybe I didn't retain every little bit of information from it because I rent 8 films a week and I don't own TDK, so maybe I need a bit of a refresher.

NickGuy · 07-28-2009, 07:11 PM

hes not in TDK, hes one of the villains in batman begins...thats why i asked if youd seen it.

yotaruvegeta · 07-28-2009, 08:20 PM

Ah, yeah, someone brought him up and I automatically assumed it was a character from TDK he was referencing.

Now I realize that his comment held no weight on whether TDK was good or not.

Sn4tcH · 07-28-2009, 11:27 PM

I really think Falcone would be useful in a third Batman film...

_Move · 07-28-2009, 11:57 PM

Or Sofia and her brother perhaps.....

Word to the doubters and contrarians -

No one really compares TDK to the Godfather. A few hyped up fans made the comparo around the time of the release.

The reason for the crime movie comparison justification is twofold -

1. Nolan himself was inspired by Michael Mann's filmmaking, Heat specifically.

2. Replace Batman and the Joker with a well-equipped private detective/vigilante and a crazed terrorist and what do you have?

A Crime Movie Thriller with Terrorisim Elements.

Hence why those who see past the hype and hoopla, and the immediate character forms, can see the underlying structure of the film. The short-sighted simply get caught up on the dress-up parts.

_Move · 07-29-2009, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Hammer

It's not really that close to being a brilliant modern crime film. They way the represented Falcone in 'Batman Begins' discounts any brilliance within the films.

TDK and BB are two seperate animals there Hammer, a character in Begins has little to do with my assertation about the The Dark Knight.

n2doop5u · 07-29-2009, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by NickGuy

i think he means how he was a stereotypical caricature?

Was he? I don't see that. He didn't even play it like an Italian. He played it like he was Gotham"s' biggest Mob boss....... because he was. He got over confident, didn't think anyone could take him down, and then Batman did. If anything, it was Maroni who was stereotypical by playing the exact same part in TDK. There should have been a hint of fear about Batman because his predecessor had been taken down by him. I wish the Hammer would explain his argument. I want to understand why he thought it was stereotypical, if that was even the complaint.

Jorriss · 07-29-2009, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by n2doop5u

. There should have been a hint of fear about Batman because his predecessor had been taken down by him. I wish the Hammer would explain his argument. .

I don't know if Maroni was afraid but you could tell he took Batman into account in actions, as the Joker described 'I know why you have your [meetings] during the day, I know why...etc]

TitoJones · 07-29-2009, 08:34 PM

Overrated as in "One of the best movies ever"---I guess

Overrated as in "One of the best comicbook movies ever"---Not a chance

To me, note I said "TO ME", the only comicbook movies that stand up to it is XMen 2, Spiderman 2, Blade and Oldboy (even though I saw the twist coming a mile away, and I'm not good at seeing these things)

the Hornet · 07-30-2009, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sambo

Sorry if there is already a Thread about it but do you think that the Dark Knight was over rated and if yes why. I personally think it was a little bit overrated just because they made a huge fuss over Heath Legers death.

not really, the movie itself was superb. And Heath was the best part of it> I will say that even if he is alive today. Its simple fact. This is the best superhero movie so far and the best movie last year.

07-28-2009, 03:46 PM	#226
yotaruvegeta New Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6	Who was Falcone? Was that when Batman comes inside the club and is fighting off people? I know he's not Eric Roberts' character. I think there were a lot of tense moments in TDK. I didn't know that they would kill off Rachel Dawes or that Joker set up the judge, DA (or was it the mayor?) , etc. I don't think that the two boat scene was tense at all, because I couldn't see them killing a boat full of people, and Batman was in for a W in his column at that point in the movie. Still, I really wanted it to happen, just for a change. TDK even shocked me when one of the fake Batmen was hung and he was swung off the building. I also loved the video of Joker when he held the fake Batman hostage. That was creepy. OK, so maybe to get some idea if this movie could be overrated, what's your score for the film? IMDB now has it at 8.9 for user reviews. I go for a solid 9.0 Last edited by yotaruvegeta; 07-28-2009 at 03:49 PM.

07-28-2009, 07:11 PM	#230
NickGuy I miss my daughter Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,609	hes not in TDK, hes one of the villains in batman begins...thats why i asked if youd seen it. __________________ "i love you daddy" and all of a sudden it's the best day of my life

07-28-2009, 11:27 PM	#232
Sn4tcH Continuity Is Life Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Joliet, Il. Posts: 1,949	I really think Falcone would be useful in a third Batman film... __________________ Libaax: (Grant Morrison) is so fresh, a god of superhero comics and (you should) worship his world of Batman.

07-29-2009, 08:34 PM	#237
TitoJones Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 635	Overrated as in "One of the best movies ever"---I guess Overrated as in "One of the best comicbook movies ever"---Not a chance To me, note I said "TO ME", the only comicbook movies that stand up to it is XMen 2, Spiderman 2, Blade and Oldboy (even though I saw the twist coming a mile away, and I'm not good at seeing these things) __________________ A space knight Rom, consume planets like Unicron blasting photon bombs from the arm like Galvatron. RZA --"Impossible"

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07-28-2009, 04:45 PM	#229
yotaruvegeta New Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6	Yeah [sir] I did watch the movie. Maybe I didn't retain every little bit of information from it because I rent 8 films a week and I don't own TDK, so maybe I need a bit of a refresher.

07-28-2009, 08:20 PM	#231
yotaruvegeta New Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6	Ah, yeah, someone brought him up and I automatically assumed it was a character from TDK he was referencing. Now I realize that his comment held no weight on whether TDK was good or not.

07-28-2009, 11:57 PM	#233
_Move Earth Q Resident. Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 75	Or Sofia and her brother perhaps..... Word to the doubters and contrarians - No one really compares TDK to the Godfather. A few hyped up fans made the comparo around the time of the release. The reason for the crime movie comparison justification is twofold - 1. Nolan himself was inspired by Michael Mann's filmmaking, Heat specifically. 2. Replace Batman and the Joker with a well-equipped private detective/vigilante and a crazed terrorist and what do you have? A Crime Movie Thriller with Terrorisim Elements. Hence why those who see past the hype and hoopla, and the immediate character forms, can see the underlying structure of the film. The short-sighted simply get caught up on the dress-up parts.