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The Master Meglomaniac · 11-22-2009, 02:04 AM

Were Reed Richards calculations wrong? Considering during Civil War Reed stated he can predict future events, why didn't he predict the Marvel population being stupid enough to give Norman Osborn power? Does he still believe the SHRA is necessary to prevent a global disaster now that Osborn enforces it?

Has Reed admitted his "law should be obeyed no matter what" attitude has been proven wrong now that Osborn administers the laws?

StoneGold · 11-22-2009, 02:06 AM

Read Dark Reign: Fantastic Four. Everything is addressed there.

The Master Meglomaniac · 11-22-2009, 02:07 AM

Double post

ANewHope · 11-22-2009, 02:11 AM

And then read Hickman's Fantastic Four. Awesome. Only 3 issues out so far.

Evil-Spidey · 11-22-2009, 04:01 AM

I think Reed will soon be revealed to be the Blue Goblin, sidekick of Norman "Green Goblin" Osborn.

Joe Acro · 11-22-2009, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by StoneGold

Read Dark Reign: Fantastic Four. Everything is addressed there.

I didn't read it, but that's where it's revealed that Reed just didn't calculate far enough, right? Where he determines that no matter what course of action was taken after the act was passed, it all leads to Osborn or someone similar being put in charge.

Monty_Cristo · 11-22-2009, 10:53 AM

there is no way Reed could have accounted for Peter Parker making a deal with Mephisto; thereby opening up the Marvel Universe to corruption. with great power... yadda yadda yadda.

XPac · 11-22-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Monty_Cristo

there is no way Reed could have accounted for Peter Parker making a deal with Mephisto; thereby opening up the Marvel Universe to corruption. with great power... yadda yadda yadda.

When was it shown that Peter's deal with Mephisto opened the MU up to corruption?

Cthulhudrew · 11-22-2009, 12:07 PM

"Must have put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. I always do that; I always mess up some mundane detail."

"OH! Well, this is not a mundane detail Reed!!!"

Sandy Hausler · 11-22-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Master Meglomaniac

Were Reed Richards calculations wrong? Considering during Civil War Reed stated he can predict future events, why didn't he predict the Marvel population being stupid enough to give Norman Osborn power? Does he still believe the SHRA is necessary to prevent a global disaster now that Osborn enforces it?

Has Reed admitted his "law should be obeyed no matter what" attitude has been proven wrong now that Osborn administers the laws?

Isn't that the Mad Thinker's shtick -- and he was never right. Reed Richards should have known better than to make such a statement. Doesn't he know about the X factor?

Sandy Hausler

Monty_Cristo · 11-22-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Hausler

Isn't that the Mad Thinker's shtick -- and he was never right. Reed Richards should have known better than to make such a statement. Doesn't he know about the X factor?

Sandy Hausler

if you live your life worrying about the x-factor, nothing gets done. spider-man shouldn't save that guy from the burning building. that individual might one day become a supervillain after some science accident.

Monty_Cristo · 11-22-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by XPac

When was it shown that Peter's deal with Mephisto opened the MU up to corruption?

you'll see

Zero Hunter · 11-22-2009, 02:40 PM

It all goes back to trying to predict future events is about the dumbest thing you can do anyway. Especially in the Marvel U. There are just to many massive unseen varibles to contend with. That was one of my main reasons for thingking the whole storyline was dumb to begin with since Reed and Tony better than anyone should know things like that.

Alan2099 · 11-22-2009, 02:43 PM

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When was it shown that Peter's deal with Mephisto opened the MU up to corruption?

I'd say the Marvel Universe being open for corruption has more to do with Tony Stark and less to do with Peter Parker.

Also, Reed himself has stated that he can predict the general trends and larger details, but he couldn't predict the actions of ever single person. When you're dealing with superheroes, a single person can make all the difference in the world.

Monty_Cristo · 11-22-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan2099

I'd say the Marvel Universe being open for corruption has more to do with Tony Stark and less to do with Peter Parker.

Also, Reed himself has stated that he can predict the general trends and larger details, but he couldn't predict the actions of ever single person. When you're dealing with superheroes, a single person can make all the difference in the world.

yes, like Peter Parker. who's in charge? Norman. who's Norman's archenemy? Peter.

11-22-2009, 02:04 AM	#1
The Master Meglomaniac Veteran Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,804	Were Reed Richards' calculations wrong? Were Reed Richards calculations wrong? Considering during Civil War Reed stated he can predict future events, why didn't he predict the Marvel population being stupid enough to give Norman Osborn power? Does he still believe the SHRA is necessary to prevent a global disaster now that Osborn enforces it? Has Reed admitted his "law should be obeyed no matter what" attitude has been proven wrong now that Osborn administers the laws?

11-22-2009, 02:06 AM	#2
StoneGold IZ GON RAIN!!! Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 53,173	Read Dark Reign: Fantastic Four. Everything is addressed there. __________________ The Punisher: I’m going to cauterize your rectum, sealing it shut, so when you turn those delicious Pink Pants™ Fruit Pies into waste products the bilirubin in your feces will leach into your bloodstream and you’ll die screaming! And I’ll watch while having sex with this grateful prostitute! Trussed-Up Hooker: Blueberry are my favorite! In other words, what StoneGold said. -Expletive Deleted Check out my travel site, Geekations.com

11-22-2009, 02:07 AM	#3
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11-22-2009, 04:01 AM	#5
Evil-Spidey Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,455	I think Reed will soon be revealed to be the Blue Goblin, sidekick of Norman "Green Goblin" Osborn. __________________ You mean we aren't counting classic arcs like "85th try to make sense out of Xorn", "Avengers fight ninjas" and its two sequels, or "Random Sentry filler arc"?

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Monty_Cristo Anty-Hero Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 20,332	there is no way Reed could have accounted for Peter Parker making a deal with Mephisto; thereby opening up the Marvel Universe to corruption. with great power... yadda yadda yadda. __________________ H.A.M.M.E.R (Hand's Amazing Mammaries Merit Extra Reinforcement) http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2...olt129_130.jpg

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ANewHope Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 988	And then read Hickman's Fantastic Four. Awesome. Only 3 issues out so far.

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11-22-2009, 02:40 PM	#13
Zero Hunter Long Live the Legion Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,225	It all goes back to trying to predict future events is about the dumbest thing you can do anyway. Especially in the Marvel U. There are just to many massive unseen varibles to contend with. That was one of my main reasons for thingking the whole storyline was dumb to begin with since Reed and Tony better than anyone should know things like that.

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