Hey look! SECRET WAR #5! Finally! - Review & Spoilers

**Expletive Deleted** · 12-14-2005, 04:56 PM

Yes, finally. SECRET WAR #5 by Bendis and Dell'Otto.

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So this issue gives us the resolution to both fights. The one a year ago in Latveria and the one now in New York. We get the explanation for the memory loss, we get an explanation for the new costumes, we get an explanation for why Fury is done with SHIELD, we get an explanation for why SHIELD is so anti-costume lately, and we get more details on 'lil miss Hyde.

If this had come out on time, I'd be perfectly happy with it. But it didn't so . . . yeah. Kind of a letdown.

I'd recommend the hardcover, though. It's a decent story, Bendis's text pieces are a hoot, and Dell'Otto's art is going to look better in oversized format.

Anyone else give in and pick this up?

**Jake V** · 12-14-2005, 04:59 PM

I really liked it. Haven't had a chance to read the text pieces yet, but the art is pretty incredible, and I liked the explanation for no one knowing where Fury went off to.

**Jagernaut** · 12-14-2005, 05:46 PM

So is the Fury that seems to be running around the MU now a decoy?

**Spiderchick1974** · 12-14-2005, 08:13 PM

Could someone give me the 411 about Secret War?
I have heard bits and pieces, but never paid attention...What is it about?
Was there some sort of delay or something?
Etc etc
Thanks a lot!

**Expletive Deleted** · 12-14-2005, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by Spiderchick1974

Could someone give me the 411 about Secret War?
I have heard bits and pieces, but never paid attention...What is it about?

The government finds out that the Tinkerer, the guy who develops weapons for low rent supervillains, is really working for a Latverian (post-Doom) terrorist group. They decline to pursue it, so Fury recruits a bunch of superheroes and invades Latveria against government orders. He then mindwipes all the heroes except Captain America and sends them on their way. One year later, they're all attacked by tech-based villains and they don't know why. There's a huge battle, everyone's pissed at Fury, and it ends with someone else taking control of SHIELD.

It's more complicated, but that's the nutshell.

Was there some sort of delay or something?

Something like that. It was originally supposed to be a quarterly. I think it ended up being a biannual.

**Jake V** · 12-14-2005, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by Spiderchick1974

Could someone give me the 411 about Secret War?
I have heard bits and pieces, but never paid attention...What is it about?
Was there some sort of delay or something?
Etc etc
Thanks a lot!

The story was about how one year ago (marvel time) Nick Fury called together some superheroes (Cap, Spidey, Wolverine, Luke Cage, Black Widow, and Daredevil) to infiltrate the capitol of Latveria and bring down the government because they were a potential terrorist threat (something about supplying weapons to supervillains). They inadvertantly leveled the whole city, so Fury made sure that all of the heroes had their memories altered after it was all over. Of course, this comes back to bite them in the ass, because the president of Latveria (not Doom) survived the attack, and provided even more tech to supervillains along with orders to target the superheroes involved (except they don't remember the mission, so they have no idea why people are attacking them). This all culminates in a big battle in NYC with supervillains versus superheroes and then the all cyborged-up former latverian president takes control of the supervillain tech to make a bomb. Of course, this is prevented at the last second by a new SHIELD recruit, Daisy Johnson, the daughter of Mr Hyde, who controls seismic waves or something. Once the heroes find out what Fury did to them, Wolverine freaks out and guts Fury. Except it isn't Fury, it's an LDM, and Fury isn't anywhere anyone can find him at because after the Latveria thing, he's considered a war criminal.

The series basically explains why Fury isn't running SHIELD in New Avengers, and shows how SHIELD is currently rotten under the current leadership.

It featured painted art by Gabriele Dell'Otto that really looks quite good. Only problem is that he is REALLY slow, and while the series was solicited as a quarterly, each issue came out even later than the last one. Not Kevin Smith late, but late either way.

**Spiderchick1974** · 12-14-2005, 08:35 PM

Wow, Jake...I REALLY appreciate your taking time to type all that...thanks so much for the info and Happy Holidays!

**overcomebyfumes** · 12-14-2005, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by Jake V

The series basically explains why Fury isn't running SHIELD in New Avengers, and shows how SHIELD is currently rotten under the current leadership.

Now, can someone explain to me why Nick Fury IS running SHIELD in the Wolverine "Enemy of the State" arc?

What will it finally take to get Marvels editors to actually do their jobs?!?!?!?!?!

**Expletive Deleted** · 12-14-2005, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by overcomebyfumes

Now, can someone explain to me why Nick Fury IS running SHIELD in the Wolverine "Enemy of the State" arc?

It takes place before SECRET WAR, I'd assume.

**BizarroBeachHead** · 12-14-2005, 10:40 PM

So what about the Nick Fury currently in Hulk? Is he acting as the head of SHEILD or is he acting alone? I havn't read the issue I just saw that he was in it.

**tjarvis** · 12-14-2005, 10:56 PM

I think Marvel is really screwy with the whole Nick Fury thing (it's Daniel Way who seems to keep using him actually), but I have hopes that they'll eventually sort the whole story out. Considering what Fury did to some of these heroes though, I can't see them ever working with him the same way again.

It definitely wouldn't be in Captain America's and Wolverine's character to do so. Which makes me wonder how Brubaker is going to sort out this whole Fury thing, since Nick is part of the supporting cast in Cap's book.

Yeah, it is a mess. It'll be a cool story if the rest of the Marvel Universe can get on the same page though.

Oh, and after earthquake girl exploded Logan's heart and threatened the rest of the X-Men, I was really hoping for Cyclops to flat out knock her ass out with an optic blast.

**Kevinroc** · 12-14-2005, 11:24 PM

It's not just Way. Robert Kirkman has used Fury quite a bit in Marvel Team-Up. And JMS used Fury in Fantastic Four. And I'm sure there are a few other examples out there.

**hbkabdul** · 12-14-2005, 11:46 PM

Picked up the book and thought it was ok. I havent gone back and looked but a lot of the scenes in the book look like reused and recolored art from previous issues. I could be wrong though. Fury spilling his guts to everyone at the end was a high point but otherwise its remiss of any real action. Liked the idea of Daisy popping Wolverine from the inside out though.

**Uncensored** · 12-15-2005, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by Expletive Deleted

Fury recruits a bunch of superheroes and invades Latveria against government orders. He then mindwipes all the heroes except Captain America and sends them on their way.

Has Fury been talking to the JLA?