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    Default What do you think of adoption?

    I commented a bit about this in the anti-breeding thread, but I'd like to see what more people think about it.

    For the past few years, my mind has been gradually changing regarding children in my future. I come from a very large extended family that has high expectations for procreation, but I am against "breeding" myself. I'd rather adopt, as many of my friends from college have. Their kids are of all races and nationalities, beautiful, smart and have the same values as their parents.

    When I tell my grandmother about my future intentions, she gets disgusted at the thought. She claims adopted children won't be "one of us"...and that saddens me. I like to think that anyone I may bring into my family some day will be "one of us", regardless of if he or she is even the same race, let alone the same genes.

    What do you think of adoption? Do you think people who can have children should adopt? Would you do it? Have you? How important is passing on your own genes to you?
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    I've thought about adoption. Frankly, I think there are too many kids out there who need help. I guess it would be nice to pass on my genes (though the rest of the world might not agree), but at the same time I have a difficult time reconciling the number of kids who actually need to be adopted.

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    You should definitely adopt! There are a lot of starving children out there. I have nothing against it whatsoever.

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    well we have a coworker here who adpoted a little girl since she cannot have children. she brags about how the extra income from the state pays off her SUV payment and how she has so much extra money to waste. she does know that once the adoption papers go through the money will stop though. but she complains how she cannot get extra money from another adoption another child because her boyfriend has two kids of his own that live with them. other than that, i think adoption is a good thing. but i wouldnt adopt a child. my genes would just be wasted

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    I'd consider it.

    As I understand, it's a bitchload of work to actually get a kid.

    The only problem I would have is explaining to my grandmother how two Italians ended up with a Japanese baby.
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    My brother and I were both adopted, and for the most felt no particular estrangement from our family. My aunts, uncles, grandparents, parents, cousins, etc., have always treated us with warmth, love, and respect... if that's not sufficiently "familial", then, I suppose its still quite good.

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    Collin and I always said (when we first got married and thought about kids) would be that we'd adopt. There's too many children, especially non-infants, that need a good home which we could provide. My folks always said they had no problem with it and I believe them. Collin's folks also said that but qualified it with "you'll get a white child right?".

    My best friend from high school and his wife can't have kids but they won't adopt because his folks say "it won't be our grandchild", why should genetics matter so much?
    What have I always believed? That, on the whole, and by and large, if a person lived properly, not according to what any priests said, but according to what seemed decent and honest inside, then it would, at the end, more or less, turn out ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archyduke
    My brother and I were both adopted, and for the most felt no particular estrangement from our family. My aunts, uncles, grandparents, parents, cousins, etc., have always treated us with warmth, love, and respect... if that's not sufficiently "familial", then, I suppose its still quite good.
    As it should be. I, for one, love the fact that adopted children are definitely wanted children. (unlike my brother and I - the "birth control mishaps")

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixrising
    What do you think of adoption?
    It's awesome and beautiful.

    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixrising
    Do you think people who can have children should do it?
    A "should"is kind of hard to answer. But I think if you're curious or interested then aggressively pursue it, and don't put it off.

    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixrising
    Would you do it?
    Absolutely

    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixrising
    Have you?
    No, but I've had several talks with my wife.

    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixrising
    How important is passing on your own genes to you?
    I'm not sure Ilike the way you phrased the question. Having a child with someone I love was and is important to me.

    More to the point, I don't believe adoption is secondary to having kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma
    My folks always said they had no problem with it and I believe them. Collin's folks also said that but qualified it with "you'll get a white child right?".
    why would you need to get their approval? people need to have minds of their own

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma

    My best friend from high school and his wife can't have kids but they won't adopt because his folks say "it won't be our grandchild", why should genetics matter so much?
    I don't get it either. Maybe it's because I'm not of any sort of proud cultural heritage (untraceable white trash here), but I don't see what's so damn great about my genes than anyone else's. There's a lot of cute, smart kids in my fmaily - and there's also a lot of alcoholics and idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nubly
    why would you need to get their approval? people need to have minds of their own
    I would like any child to have an extended family that loves them.

    and btw, I never asked for approval (not sure where you read that), we inquired about their opinion. additionally, that's quite a rude assumption that I don't have a mind of my own.
    What have I always believed? That, on the whole, and by and large, if a person lived properly, not according to what any priests said, but according to what seemed decent and honest inside, then it would, at the end, more or less, turn out ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixrising
    What do you think of adoption?
    It's mutually beneficial. Sounds good.
    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixrising
    Do you think people who can have children should do it?
    If they want to and are capable? Sure.
    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixrising
    Would you do it?
    Unlikely. Maybe if there were an extreme need right in front of me (or in my own life).
    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixrising
    Have you?
    No.
    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixrising
    How important is passing on your own genes to you?
    Mighty.
    Please pardon any aggressive auto-correct feature typos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winslow
    I'm not sure Ilike the way you phrased the question. Having a child with someone I love was and is important to me.

    More to the point, I don't believe adoption is secondary to having kids.
    Sorry if it seemed phrased oddly.

    I just wonder because if my boyfriend and I were to adopt a child, for instance, that child would be one we would raise together with our own values on education, morality, etc.....he or she could be just as much like us as anyone else's birth child - except for appearances and genetics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winslow
    I'm not sure Ilike the way you phrased the question. Having a child with someone I love was and is important to me.
    I didn't think she was assuming your or my intent so much as she was asking about those WITH that intent.

    I, for instance, want to pass on my genes AND I'm interested in having a child with someone I love.
    Please pardon any aggressive auto-correct feature typos.

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