David R, I'll agree with Jarrod. I think you mean Val Cooper instead of Carol Danvers. Val Cooper was sent to kill Mystique, but Mystique knew of the Shadow King's plans thanks to Destiny & she was prepared to take her out. Mystique then assumed Val Cooper's form (probably had a device to mimic Val's brainwaves so the Shadow King would not notice).
Thank you both for the correction. :)
Chris Claremont's original plans for
X-Men #1 August 1991
Chris Claremont-- "The first issue of X-Men #1 was supposed to be like an entry-level book. What do we do with 53 X-Men? I had this great sequence worked out. A five-page scene, with Scott and Storm in the Danger Room. Scott's up in the booth, Storm's down on the floor. You have this incredible fight going on, Brotherhood of Evil Mutants vs. X-Men, bodies flying everywhere, Storm just wanders through the middle of it, taking notes. They freeze it, displays appear, assessing everybody's performance.
And what Scott and Storm are doing is running scenarios, mixing various members of the team. Show them actually working out who goes where. How do we protect the mansion? In the middle of this, Magneto shows up. There's the obligatory confrontation, there might even be a fight. The gist of it is Magneto and Xavier have come to a parting of the ways. Magneto is certain that humanity will betray them. Xavier is just as certain that humanity will not. The Statesman vs. the Terrorist, who knows which is right? They go their separate ways. The X-Men realize there is a nasty world out there and they have to get ready. They divvy up the teams. X-Men #2 and Uncanny X-Men #281 were where the stories take off."
Mad Jim Jaspers and the Fury:
Chris Claremont brought Sir Jim Jaspers in Uncanny X-Men #200 planning a mega-arc for him. Chris' plan was for Jim Jaspers to have a slowly-growing role in the title, and eventually create a Jaspers Warp in the Marvel Universe. However, Jaspers-creator Alan Moore was having a falling out with Marvel over the Dr. Who reprints appearing in U.S. Doctor Who editions. Claremont was unaware of the political goings-on until Moore read Jim Jaspers appearance in UXM #200 and went berzerk. Alan Moore cut ties to Marvel and the legal ownership of Jim Jaspers went into limbo.
Claremont also intended to bring the Fury into the mega-arc, since the Fury's ownership was more hazy. And the "Special Executive" also, which eventually turned into the Technet. John Romita Jr. was to be the artist, and there were to be hints to this "Big Event" in other Marvel titles. At first, this story was planned as Marvel's 1986 answer to DC's "Crisis on Infinite Earths". Running through multiple titles and having ramifications in several books. But then, Claremont learned of the Alan Moore/Marvel clash and completely rewrote his mega-arc. And the "Marvel Crisis" instead morphed into the Mutant Massacre.
The original arc was to begin with Uncanny X-Men #200 with the appearance of Sir Jim Jaspers, and the only person able to stop him--Charles Xavier---is now off-world. The next six issues went as were originally printed, but then changes begin. Nimrod, the futuristic Sentinel living as a Hispanic worker, was planned to merge with the Fury and not only become indestructible, but also incredibly intelligent. "Doctor Doom times a googleplex" was the term used to describe the hybrid. Romita was now leaving the book, and Alan Davis was asked to draw it, but he declined.
The Mutant Massacre was supposed to be solely the Nimrod/Fury hybrid causing the destruction. No Sinister, no Marauders. He is finally stopped by Kitty Pryde phasing through him. Both Kitty and Nightcrawler were to be critically injured, so they are sent to Muir Island along with Colossus as bodyguard, and a new X-Man Longshot! Colossus would have become a foil for Brian Braddock (whose on Muir Isle) and Kitty begins a crush on Brian.
Mutants begin to swarm to Xavier's Mansion for protection, and with Phoenix Rachel Summers gone and Kitty and Brian in Scotland, there were no mutants around to see the parallels with Days of Future Past or with the Jaspers Warp. America falls into the throes of mutant hysteria and with Magneto now in charge of the X-Men, he must make some radical decisions to effect the status quo. I'll finish the rest later....
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So I really had the feeling that Claremont's plan was to have everybody "die" (with some of them going through the Siege Perilous as amounting to the same thing) and then slowly bring them back over the next couple of years. (Heck, he'd already had eight X-Men, plus Madelyne Pryor, "absolutely, positively really die" in Dallas a couple of years earlier . . . and then get resurrected! Why would Dazzler's "death" in #247 be anything different?)
So the way it looks to me is that Marc Silvestri's contribution amounts to: "I managed to persuade Chris that instead of killing off Dazzler in #247, so that he could bring her back later, he should have her walk through the Siege Perilous four issues later, so that he could bring her back later!"
Or is there some reason to believe that Chris Claremont really and truly wanted Dazzler to stay "permanently dead"? (Not that it matters much, because within another couple of years he was going to lose his job as an X-Men writer and then someone else would have just brought her back anyway! ;))
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At that same point, Tessa within the Hellfire Club reveals herself never under the SK's control at all, and is in fact a spy for Charles Xavier. She battles Sebastian Shaw, Emma Frost, and other Hellfire Club members and actually defeats them all. Temporarily disconnecting the SK's power over them. But it's enough time.
And the part about Jean and Logan hitching up: I don't buy it, and I'm glad I never saw it. I can see a fling, but permanently? It reminds me of that domestic scene in Earth X where Logan and Maddie are living together.
I can't see Jean sticking with a cigar-chomping, Harley riding, beer-drinking, bar-hopping roughneck. Not for any real length of time.
A better match for her, sans Summers, would be her old classmate Worthington.
Of course, I suppose Claremont may have thought the two characters were beautifully interchangeable, although I find it hard to see how he would have gotten that idea into his head in the first place.
And I hope "End of discussion" was intended as a joke! :)
When Joe Quesada took over as EiC of Marvel, one of the first things he did was try to smooth things out with Moore. This resulted in a certain amount of progress. While Moore will still not work for Marvel he did give approval for his original Captain Britain Jaspers' Warp storyline to be reprinted in 2000. A gestalt entity half Jim Jaspers - half The Fury was also brought into being when Wanda Maximoff caused the Multiverse to split open in Otherworld during Uncanny X-Men's House of M story 'Season of the Witch' prompting speculation that Claremont may use that character either in up coming issues of New Excalibur or eXiles.
I think the Marauders & Mister Sinister is a far better idea than the intended Nimrod-Fury gestalt. You will note, Chris Claremont merged Nimrod with the Master Mold Sentinel in Uncanny X-Men #246-247 leading to both robots' destruction.
"Heads up-- If Havok's position in UA #5 really upset you, it's time to drown yourself hobo piss. Seriously, do it. It's the only solution." - Rick Remender
Sucks 200 character limit.