Hulk officially the strongest in Marvel

[marshal99]

Now if we only knew if the bands were as powerful as Juggernaut himself.

There was an issue of Dr Strange that has Strange being held by the deity Cytorrak in his dimension and Strange summon Juggernaut to aid him. After Juggernaut realise where he is , he tried to steal the gem from Cytorrak's forehead and instead got wrapped up by the bands like a christmas present , so i should think that the bands of cyttorak is indeed as powerful as Juggernaut himself.

[Jomero]

Doesn't really matter if they are as strong as Juggernaut or not. The fact is, Hulk has broken a supposedly "unbreakble" item from Billy Bob Cytorrak. And we still have yet to see Hulk top-out in terms of strength. Given that, it's quite obvious that Hulk, given enough time to get sufficiently angry, could easily do some serious, if not permanent, damage to Juggerbutt.

Would Hulk be able to do this within 5 seconds? Absolutely not. But if the fight went on long enough? Juggernut is going down and staying down.

[Grammaton Cleric]

There was an issue of Dr Strange that has Strange being held by the deity Cytorrak in his dimension and Strange summon Juggernaut to aid him. After Juggernaut realise where he is , he tried to steal the gem from Cytorrak's forehead and instead got wrapped up by the bands like a christmas present , so i should think that the bands of cyttorak is indeed as powerful as Juggernaut himself.

Thank you - couldn't have said it any better myself. Why would the crimson bands of Cytorrak not be as powerful as the Juggernaut who is also powered by Cytorrak?!...

[Dark Soul # 7]

Yeah Hulk has beat him though.Remember when he had help from Nate Grey,Thanos also had a whole dark ralm of dimension backing him up.

That was a Thanos clone.

[marvelboy]

Doesn't really matter if they are as strong as Juggernaut or not. The fact is, Hulk has broken a supposedly "unbreakble" item from Billy Bob Cytorrak. And we still have yet to see Hulk top-out in terms of strength. Given that, it's quite obvious that Hulk, given enough time to get sufficiently angry, could easily do some serious, if not permanent, damage to Juggerbutt.

Would Hulk be able to do this within 5 seconds? Absolutely not. But if the fight went on long enough? Juggernut is going down and staying down.

I like hulk alot don't get me wrong,but juggernauts strength has never been measured. I spoke with actual comic creators about it. Both Juggernaut and Hulk are considered immeasureable in terms of what their strength level is

[widdershins]

The bands of cyttorak are only as powerful as the concentration of the magic user who invokes them and have actually been broken many times (by Namor and Starhawk for instance) while noone has ever hurt the Juggernaut with purely physical means.

[Morbidious]

There is Nobody, NOBODY who is stronger than the Hulk! Never has been, never will be. If a writer makes the Hulk weak or strong, then I write that Hulk is unstoppable. Nuff said! :evilsmile

[long pig]

Hulk has at one time broken "Crimsons bands of Cytorrak" that shocked Dr. Strange, as they were supposed to be unbreakable. Guess who is also powered by Mr. Cytorrak.

It happend in an altered reality where "ones deepest desires come true." from Strange's own mouth. Hulk's deepest desire at the time was to break the bands, and it was granted.

The other 500 times Hulk has been clamped in the bands he couldn't break free(Hulk went as far as pretending not to be angry anymore so Strange would let him loose from the bands.), but as soon as he was inside an altered reality where normal laws of magic don't apply, he can break them.

In normal reality, when the spell caster is foucused and on point, no one can break them.

So much for that point, huh?

I have scans if you think I'm wrong.

Juggernaut's strength is impossible to measure, it could very well be limitless. The editors of Hulk's comic a few years back got a letter asking "Is Hulk officially the strongest being in Marvel?" The editor wrote "Well, the talk around the office is Juggernaut might be the king of the block due to the limitless amount of power he can call from Cyttorak."

Also, when did Hulk ever have limitless rage to give himself limitless strength?

Hulk=possibility of limitless strength, but not the means to achieve it, right? That's something I've often wondered.

[steve2275]

juggernaut isnt even in COLOSSUS;s league these days
x men 157 is the issue where he had trouble lifting 1 ton

[marshal99]

juggernaut isnt even in COLOSSUS;s league these days
x men 157 is the issue where he had trouble lifting 1 ton

I think most people are talking about old school Juggernaut , not the current wimpernaut who loves fishboy and got beaten by the blob.

[Artemis1]

Silver Surfer's the strongest. I mean, he whacked Galactus upside the head.

[Titan76]

The only way for the Hulk to be called the strongest being in Marvel is for Marvel to put him in a weight class of his own. Make it the Hulk class-strength and start it at say 1000 tons. I mean that's the only was to solve the problem. At times Marvel wants the Hulk to be so strong no one can beat him and then 12 issues later he has a baseline strength again at say 90 tons and people like Iron Man and Namor are trading punches with him. Just put him in his own weight class and the only people we will have to debate on who is stronger then the Hulk is Thanos, Silver Surfer, Superman, and maybe 2 or 3 others I can't remember right now.

[Titan76]

juggernaut isnt even in COLOSSUS;s league these days
x men 157 is the issue where he had trouble lifting 1 ton

Just to let you know Colossus level is 100 tons or over and Juggernaut was not having trouble lefting 1 ton, I think he was at 85 to 90 tons.

[Kid Kamikaze10]

Even though some writers have a problem with this.....

Silver Surfer is the Strongest

Sentry is second (seeing how he owned one of Galactus' heralds)

[chicorage]

Even though some writers have a problem with this.....

Silver Surfer is the Strongest

Sentry is second (seeing how he owned one of Galactus' heralds)

With that logic, then wouldn't Sentry be stronger than Silver Surfer? It can be argued that SS is the strongest of the heralds, but he's not leagues above any of the others. And if Sentry can handle one of them so easily then that makes him stronger than all of them.
Of course this is totally of topic, sorry about that.