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    Default The limits of your "suspension of disbelief"...

    Many of us suspend our disbelief long enough to make it through sci-fi/fantasy or whatever kind of stories entertain us, but also occasionally break the laws of physics (or what we perceive them to be).

    Sometimes creators make it too difficult to suspend that disbelief, though. Tell us about times that's happened to you. What weren't you able to suspend your disbelief about? Why?

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    For me-
    I flipped through Superman: Birthright, again, recently. Clark mentioned how he can SEE the satellite transmissions and he just weaves through them to avoid detection.

    *scratches head*

    I don't see a person weaving through a blanket of transmissions. Now that I think about it that way, it's harder for me to imagine someone being able to SEE those transmissions, as I'd expect them to be everywhere.







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    Also...

    Spider-Man's proportionate strength and speed of a spider? I can deal with that.

    A spider-SENSE? That one's tougher on me. JMS's run makes it easier to swallow, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by west3man
    Many of us suspend our disbelief long enough to make it through sci-fi/fantasy or whatever kind of stories entertain us, but also occasionally break the laws of physics (or what we perceive them to be).

    Sometimes creators make it too difficult to suspend that disbelief, though. Tell us about times that's happened to you. What weren't you able to suspend your disbelief about? Why?

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    For me-
    I flipped through Superman: Birthright, again, recently. Clark mentioned how he can SEE the satellite transmissions and he just weaves through them to avoid detection.

    *scratches head*

    I don't see a person weaving through a blanket of transmissions. Now that I think about it that way, it's harder for me to imagine someone being able to SEE those transmissions, as I'd expect them to be everywhere.


    Well, this is the DC Retro-Silver Age! All the logic defying claptrap with none of the sense of fun!

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    See, to me, this iis one of those things that let's you know it's time to put the comic book down...

    If you can get past a flying man, and all the laws of nature/reality/physics/my high school algebra teacher...

    Fish, in the matrix, gave me the best explanation: sometimes you have to know what rules can be bent and what rules can be broken....

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    With comics, I will believe anything as long as there is some explanation put forth. The Incredible Hulk makes little sense to me, but because I was given a fake "reason" as to why he happened, I will let it slide.

    In movies and TV it is harder for me to let it go, expecially if it is a major plot point. An example:

    Matt Murdock has a huge fight on a playground in broad daylight in front of a few dozen people in the movie Daredevil. He is doing flips and landing on see-saws and blocking all of Electra's attacks.

    If I saw a blind man do that, I would definitely think something was up.
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    To be honest, my suspension of disbelief breaks down quite frequently with some comics. Mark Waid's idiotic JLA run did it a LOT, for example.

    But my all-time favorite in comics history, the one that made my suspension of disbelief not just break down, but hurl the engine through the hood in a ball of fire while the transmission ties itself in a sheepshank, was this:


    If I were to go over everything on that page that makes no damn sense, this post would be the size of one of Stephen King's mid-period novels, when he was doing a lot of coke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noah Johnson
    To be honest, my suspension of disbelief breaks down quite frequently with some comics. Mark Waid's idiotic JLA run did it a LOT, for example.

    But my all-time favorite in comics history, the one that made my suspension of disbelief not just break down, but hurl the engine through the hood in a ball of fire while the transmission ties itself in a sheepshank, was this:


    If I were to go over everything on that page that makes no damn sense, this post would be the size of one of Stephen King's mid-period novels, when he was doing a lot of coke.
    What issue is that from?
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    I can't see your example. Is it spoiler-tagged or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by west3man
    A spider-SENSE? That one's tougher on me.
    See, I can understand it as a simple tingle when something's about to hit him, like being especially sensitive to movements in the air or something. But when some writers explain it as precognition (clone saga mainly), I'm not down with that.

    Cheers to Noah for the sheer dumbness of the anti-evil ray. A friggin' classic.

    As for me, I thought that thing where the Hulk lifted up a mountain range in Secret Wars was pretty goofy.

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    Oh, and what the hell, two pages later:

    Whenever anyone talks about how the Silver Age was so great, I think of these pages, where you want to just shake the writer and scream "What are you on? Crack that passed through a mysterious space cloud?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by west3man
    I can't see your example. Is it spoiler-tagged or something?
    Hmmm, I was able to see it no problem, can you see it in the post that I did after it where I quoted the whole picture?

    Incidentally, when you do see it, it is very funny!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huh?
    What issue is that from?
    Superman #162, one of many arguably classic Superman stories to be found at superman.ws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noah Johnson
    . . . this post would be the size of one of Stephen King's mid-period novels, when he was doing a lot of coke.
    God, I love The Stand, don't you?
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    Gun innacuracies really grind my gears.

    In "Aliens" the Pulse rifles are said to fire "caseless" ammo. Fair enough, caseless is the future of small arms, but WHY oh why do I see spent casings flying all over the place in the airvent scene?

    In Escape From New York, the dystopian futuristic guards use M16A1 rifles WITHOUT THE HANDGUARDS!!! Those guys hands must be made from adamantium.

    Then there's the common misconception that the .44magnum is the best/most powerful handgun cartridge ever. They obviously haven't heard of the .50 AE

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    IN REFERENCE TO SECOND SUPERMAN PAGE FROM NOAH

    I like how the author gives as his examples no one that actually has a disease! I mean the serum is ridiculous enough, but the writer cures blindness, baldness, and crippledness - none of which are diseases!
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