What creators have done the most harm to Spider-Man?

[Mister Mets]

This is a companion to my What creators have done the most good for Spider-Man thread.

What creators do you think have done the worst for Spider-Man. I may need flame-resistant suits here. Feel free to include artists, and editors.

The creators I can think of............
Howard Mackie- He was involved in the Clone Saga, and later squandered one of the greatest opportunities given to any Spider-Man writer with a year, and a half-long mediocre run on both Amazing Spider-Man, and Peter Parker Spider-Man.

John Byrne- Chapter One. He wrote scripts for the Gathering of the Five, and the Final Chapter, and was heavily involved in plotting the first eighteen issue of the Amazing Spider-Man relaunch, and that was a bad eighteen issues.

Terry Kavangh- Suggested the clone saga, and killed off both the Lizard and Lance Bannon. Created a generic mystery Spider-Man villain in Facade, and that mystery was never solved.

I have not read the work of Reginald Hudlin, so I can't judge that book.

[Charagon]

It's hard to judge this because the majority of harm that has come upon Spider-Man is the direct result of editors, marketing, and idiots in power who simply don't know what they are doing.

The only person I can think of that produced truly terrible results for Spider-Man has been Millar, who seems to have no editorial restraint what so ever.

[jam1]

Byrne, Mackie, Kavanaugh, Bob Harras (editor).

[Artemis1]

Number one is JMS. He screwed with readers.

[The Shadow]

Byrne with Chapter One (though the art was good) and Millar

[cosmicspidey]

Number one is JMS. He screwed with readers.

As a reader, I humbly disagree.

I honestly never liked Todd MacFarlane's run on the character, and the "grim and gritty" feel that came with him (he may not have started it, but it happened around that time). "Grim and gritty" and Spider-Man don't mix.

[Uncensored]

John Byrne- Chapter One. He wrote scripts for the Gathering of the Five, and the Final Chapter, and was heavily involved in plotting the first eighteen issue of the Amazing Spider-Man relaunch, and that was a bad eighteen issues.

This was my first exposure to John Byrne's work years ago. It really made me wonder why in god's name he has fans.

[Headhunter]

Everyone involved in the Clone Saga should be ashamed beyond words.

Also, I thought Maximum Carnage was overrated; I really liked the concept, but the execution was so muddled and WAY too long. Also, all the nonames like Cloak and Dagger killed whatever momentum it had from chapter to chapter.

[Mister Mets]

It's hard to judge this because the majority of harm that has come upon Spider-Man is the direct result of editors, marketing, and idiots in power who simply don't know what they are doing.

The only person I can think of that produced truly terrible results for Spider-Man has been Millar, who seems to have no editorial restraint what so ever.

My top 15 Spider-Man stories list shows that I'll have to disagree with Millar's presence on the list. :)

[The Shadow]

My top 15 Spider-Man stories list shows that I'll have to disagree with Millar's presence on the list. :)

PLEASE tell me he's not on your list for Marvel Knights Spider-Man...

[tricksterpup]

Number one is JMS. He screwed with readers.

Best Sex I ever had.

[Dark Soul # 7]

PLEASE tell me he's not on your list for Marvel Knights Spider-Man...

That was a great one year run on a comic if I ever did see one.

[The Shadow]

That was a great one year run on a comic if I ever did see one.

I guess our tastes really differ. Other than the art the story was predictable and in the end *yawn* it was Norman again responsible for all Peters troubles... been there, read that MANY times (and better done) before.

[Charagon]

That was a great one year run on a comic if I ever did see one.

Great is not defined as "Series of mindless fights strung loosely together by an almost non-existant plot that's ripped off of a story that's actually good featuring characters that act like prickish parodies of themselves and coming to rediculous conclusions for no reason."

Nobody with more intelligance than a slice of bad cheese should enjoy that run.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Great is not defined as "Series of mindless fights strung loosely together by an almost non-existant plot that's ripped off of a story that's actually good featuring characters that act like prickish parodies of themselves and coming to rediculous conclusions for no reason."

That´s your opinion. I liked the action, thought that the plot was good, didn´t mind the obviousness that sometimes exsited and did not see anything wrong with how the characters were handled. If you want all the things you describe in your quote you should read MK:SM now. Which I think you do.

Nobody with more intelligance than a slice of bad cheese should enjoy that run.

And still I, who obviously have more intelligence than a bad slice of cheese since cheese is not a living being with a brain, enjoyed Mark Millars run on MK:SM.
If you don´t agree, fine! Like I give hootnanny.