Alternate Futures, Realities, and time traveling X-men.

[The Fury]

Where the you it or not, alternate futures and realities are part of the X-men. From Futures like 'Days of Future Past' to realities like 'Age of Apocalypse'.

These futures and realities have dumped their good and bad characters upon the normal MU. Such heroes like Rachel Grey, Bishop and Nate Grey and villians like 'Sat-Yr-9' (Courney Ross), Holocaust and Trevor Fitzroy.

So this thread is for discusion on these realities and futures of the Omniverse and their reject characters.

Such discussion could include, your favorite alternate future or reality, favorite characters of them, how these characters could be used in a better way. As well as the many What If? alternate realities and/or any alternate reality or Future that you think would be a good idea to happen. And your favorite Exiles story or world.

You could also post theories on these realities and characters.

Such as the theory that if anyone went back in time and changed things, then why Bishop was weirdly immune to this chang of the past or present.

[venuscameback]

*which What If! world would you most like to see a comic return to, Fury?


can you post a list of which What If! issues featured the x-men?



venus


*i know it's a lame question, but it's an attempt to initiate discussion and get this thread rolling

[Crimson]

Was Wolverine: Days of Future Past set in the same timeline as the orignal DOFP?

I'm guessing no due to Jubilee etc. appearing and it was just a way to help secure some buys by putting DOFP on there. Still an alright mini mind.

[The Fury]

*which What If! world would you most like to see a comic return to, Fury?

A good question, my friend. I myself have read few What if? issue and fewer X-men related ones. But:

The What if? X-men issues are:

VOL 1:

What if the Phoenix had not died? #27
What if Dazzler had become the herald of Galactus? #33
What if the Beast and the Thing continued to mutate? #37

VOL 2:

What if the X-Men lost Inferno? #6
What if Wolverine was an agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.? #7
What if the X-Men died on their first mission? #9
What if the X-Men had stayed in Asgard? #12
What if Wolverine battled Conan the Barbarian? #16
What if Wolverine was lord of the vampires? #24
What if Phoenix had not died? (Part 1 of 2) #32
What if Phoenix rose again? (Part 2 of 2) #33
What if Storm of the X-Men had remained a thief? #40
What if Wolverine had married Mariko? #43
What if Cable had destroyed the X-Men? (Part 1 of 2) #46
What if Magneto took over the U.S.A.? (Part 1 of 2) #47
What if Wolverine led Alpha Flight? #59
A What if X-Men wedding album #60
What if Wolverine battled Weapon X? #62
What if Archangel fell from grace? #65
What if Rogue possessed the power of Thor? #66
What if Stryfe killed the X-Men? #69
What if Mr. Sinister formed the X-Men? #74
What if Blink from Generation X had not died? #75
What if Legion had killed Magneto? #77
What if Storm had the power of Phoenix? #79
What if the Age of Apocalypse had not ended? #81 (this ones good as it did happen)
What if Shard had lived instead of Bishop? #84
What if Magneto ruled all mutants? #85
What if... starring Cyclops and Havok: Their early years, their darkest fears! #90
What if... starring Cannonball's little brother, Josh-- and his pet Sentinel! #92
What if... starring Wolverine: A man no more #93
What if... starring Juggernaut: The kingdom of Cain #94
What if... starring Rogue: Children in the attic #98
What if... starring Gambit: The greatest secret of the Marvel Universe revealed! #100
What if... starring Archangel: Death and disobedience #101
What if... starring The Uncanny X-Men: With Phoenix possessed... who will save Professor X... from the fury of Colossus? #110


And the most recent What if? 'What if Prof X and Magneto formed the x-men together?' Which I didn't really like.
I think that's all of them, all having their own alternate reality with them and a number (can't name them though).

The main one I like is the one Based around Rogue possisng Thor's power.

[venuscameback]

great list Fury, thanks

one you missed is "what if xavier got the powers of juggernaut" or similar

i think it's from volume two

i can't be bothered to shift boxes to dig out my What If! books for the issue number though



venus

[venuscameback]

lol and i dread to think what Gambit's secret in issue #100 turned out to be ...

that he gets his mac dry cleaned every second thursday?

that his glowing eyes are the result of contact lenses, not his mutant power?

venus

[fishtaco]

fun thread.

Can someone tell me how the following AOA characters died?
Brian Braddock
Copycat
Corsair
Carol Danvers
Empath
Emplate
Forge- how did Sinister kill him?
Gideon
Grizzly- yeah, I know X-man killed him. How?
Domino
Caliban
Karma
The Madri
Mastermind
Donald Pierce
Nanny- was she destroyed by Guido or Rictor?
Calvin Rankin
Rossovich (Omega Red in our reality)
Toad
Unus
Vanisher
Mikhail Rasputin
The Wolverine guy. Not WeaponX, but that other dude named Wolverine.

[Crimson]

Donald Pierce was "Snikt" by Weapon X by the claws in his handless arm.

[The Fury]

Was Wolverine: Days of Future Past set in the same timeline as the orignal DOFP?

I'm guessing no due to Jubilee etc. appearing and it was just a way to help secure some buys by putting DOFP on there. Still an alright mini mind.

According to Uncannyxmen.net, that series is aprt of DoFP.

[venuscameback]

we could also discuss alternate universe/timeline stories we'd like to see told


for example, i'd like to see an What If! alt version of 616 in which The Fury destroys all superbeings on earth.

and see what happens next.

what does The Fury do when his programmed miassion has been completed? how does earth develop witohut any superbeings, good or bad?

does The Fury destroy all superbeings with amazing powers, or does he ignore those like The Punisher who are the pinnacle of human devlopment. If not, does Frank Castle rule the world?


I feel these questions must be answered. i want to see all the 616 heroes heroes die at The Fury's hands

but how would you, kill Diamond Lil, Fury?

venus

[The Fury]

we could also discuss alternate universe/timeline stories we'd like to see told

AS i said in the first post. :)

for example, i'd like to see an What If! alt version of 616 in which The Fury destroys all superbeings on earth.

That would indeed rule.

what does The Fury do when his programmed miassion has been completed? how does earth develop witohut any superbeings, good or bad?

After The Fury's mission was complete on Earth-238, it remained inactive until more spuerhumans emerged.

does The Fury destroy all superbeings with amazing powers, or does he ignore those like The Punisher who are the pinnacle of human devlopment. If not, does Frank Castle rule the world?

This Frank Caslte may prove a nuisence, but if he were to engange the Fury at any point in battle, he would be come a threat and be exterminated.

I feel these questions must be answered. i want to see all the 616 heroes heroes die at The Fury's hands

but how would you, kill Diamond Lil, Fury?

venus

As do I.

Diamond Lil? *Checks powers* The Fury was able to penitrate Captain Britain's persoanl force field. He's would be no different. It would just be a case of setting the Sinoic Ion nanno to the correct frequency to penetrate the sheild.

[nubly]

lol and i dread to think what Gambit's secret in issue #100 turned out to be ...

that he gets his mac dry cleaned every second thursday?

that his glowing eyes are the result of contact lenses, not his mutant power?

venus

the secret was that the MU are actually just comic books :rolleyes:

i miss the 2099 series. x-men and x-nation had some great characters. also, in 20 genesis, there was this character who led us to believe was cable. marvel never revealed whats going on with him

another reality i like to mention is the last issue of the second what if series. it introduced the offsprings of marvel characters. im really hoping the exiles explores this reality

[venuscameback]

This Frank Castle may prove a nuisence, but if he were to engange the Fury at any point in battle, he would be come a threat and be exterminated

understood.

but maybe he leaves The Fury hibernating until superbeings re-emerge, and rules the world anyway. and i think that is a cool additional element to your What If! tale, showing how with all superbeings destroyed the likes of Frank Castle become top of the heap.


it could even be a two-aprt story - part one, everyone against you

part two, you go into hibernation and Frank Castle takes over the world. and we learn whether on this world that is a good or a bad thing.

Diamond Lil? *Checks powers* The Fury was able to penitrate Captain Britain's persoanl force field. He's would be no different. It would just be a case of setting the Sinoic Ion nanno to the correct frequency to penetrate the sheild.

Diamond Lil has no personal forcefield. i don't think your sionic Ion nano would therefore have any effect. but i could be wrong and if not it would be interesting to see

even if her skin survives your onslaught, you could trap her under a collapsed building, or starve her of oxygen. i'm sure if you cover her nose and mouth for long enough she'll suffocate like anyone else. but do you think fast enough to come up with such ideas?


also if Franklin richards regained his relaity altering powers, if he could suck you into an alternate dimension before oyu know what he's doing; presumably when confronting a group of powered opponents you attack the one who initially appears to be the greatest threat first? if you don't know whom you face, and are fighting the Fantastic Four, would Franklin would appear to be the least thrreatening of them all to your sensors, if his powers are inactive?

then the stress of seeing his folks exterminated by you might defuse the psychic circuit breakers that prevent him using his powers, and before you know it you're in an alternate universe.

is your first priority then returning to 616 to finish the job, or destroying all superbeings in your new home?


venus

[The Fury]

What If! tale, showing how with all superbeings destroyed the likes of Frank Castle become top of the heap.

I suppose he could.

but do you think fast enough to come up with such ideas?

Yes.

is your first priority then returning to 616 to finish the job, or destroying all superbeings in your new home?

venus

If Franklin Richard were to become a threat, he would stand as much chance as Jaspers was. And The Fury won that battle. The fury has also shown signs of being able to adapt to get to any reality to complete it's mission.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

fun thread.

Can someone tell me how the following AOA characters died?
Brian Braddock

Yes, found myself wondering this whilst reading the new AoA limited series, when Psylocke turned up.

I'm pretty sure he did turn up during some of the Weapon X issues in London...