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    Quote Originally Posted by MrHalfawake View Post
    Only get Legacy if you want to have rogue ruined for you

    regular Xmen eh it's alright. Im mostly on it because Domino and Psylocke is my dream x gal team up but they haven't anything terribly incredible yet still it's kinda cool
    Rogue was great in XML. I think most everyone agrees that Rogue was great at the beginning of Carey's run, before the Salvage arc. After that, opinions differ, although I liked her under Carey.

    Not a fan of how Rogue's being written currently in XML, but I'm still waiting until this arc finishes before I make a decision on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .AČ View Post
    Personally I wouldn't recommend getting it until Brian Wood takes over.
    Agreed. The current stories are just winding down the overall thread of Gischler's stories, and don't really have a lot to do with what you're reading elsewhere. Wait for a fresh start with Wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .AČ View Post
    It depends. What exactly are you looking for? Does humour turn you off in general, or only when it's a disservice to the plot? Personally I think that criticism is a little harsh of WATXM. It's certainly light-hearted in tone, especially in contrast to Uncanny, but its arcs aren't as loose as you describe - they're just generally less important than maintaining the status quo of a school environment. It's a fun, and often zany book. Give it a go, it's great. Uncanny is also great. Its art really isn't that bad unless Greg Land's photo-referencing offends you. They're both the flagship X-titles.

    If you like continuity and a comedic tone, then I'd recommend X-Factor. It's about a team that operate a detective agency and deal most often (but not exclusively) with mystic threats. Admittedly it doesn't "push the greater aspect of the X-Men" because it's somewhat self-contained and its cast is predominantly made up of less well-known characters, but it has excellent characterisation, and is generally among the most consistent titles. It's had the same writer for its entire run (coming up to 7 years now) and in that sense probably has the continuity you're looking for: several mysteries and plot points are teased out well in advance of their being explored. It also has great art, but its style has shifted radically since the beginning. Even though this is my sincere opinion, I will add the disclaimer that I am likely biased towards X-Factor. Bear in mind that it tends to be quite a divisive title, those who read it tend to really love it, and those who don't are indifferent to it.

    Alternatively, you might like Uncanny X-Force. Though it's not been around as long as X-Factor (2 years in October), it too has had the same writer for its entire run and so shares a similar relation to continuity. The premise is that it's a black ops strike team dealing with dangers to mutantkind before they get the chance to strike. Personally I don't like it, but it's virtually universally lauded, so it's definitely worth looking into. The art is also highly regarded, with the exception of the most recent arc, which some didn't seem to like.

    If you're looking for something more traditional that you can jump right into, maybe give Astonishing a try. Although it wasn't formally relaunched, beginning with its most recent issue it has a brand new creative team and cast of X-Men (Wolverine, Gambit, Iceman, Northstar, Karma, Warbird and Cecilia Reyes on the sidelines). In this first arc they're going up against the latest incarnation of the Marauders. It's still a little early for me to tell you much more.

    Honestly, the best thing to do is experiment. And probably (unfortunately) avoid New Mutants.

    Thx, for the explanantion. I ordered X-Men Season One now and i will start there. Since i will only buy TPB's or HC's and nothing ongoing, im ok with that.
    I read often now, that without the past storyarcs of X-Men it is very hard to dig newer stories.

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    I just finished Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-men run, and I really enjoyed it. The part I liked best was Kitty Pryde, and I was wondering if there are any more stories I could read with a focus on her.
    Or just more good X-men stuff, as Astonishing X-men was basically my introduction to X-men.

    I like humor, action, perhaps a bit of romance, and deeper stuff that makes you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erbine99 View Post
    I just finished Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-men run, and I really enjoyed it. The part I liked best was Kitty Pryde, and I was wondering if there are any more stories I could read with a focus on her.
    Or just more good X-men stuff, as Astonishing X-men was basically my introduction to X-men.

    I like humor, action, perhaps a bit of romance, and deeper stuff that makes you think.
    While I will certainly get back to you with more detailed recommendations, your direct next step in the Kitty/Ord story is Uncanny X-Men: Breaking Point (534.1, 535-538), which is out in trade paperback (although, you might want to read Uncanny X-Men #521-522 first).

    PS: As I point out below, Kitty also stars in her own mini that happens in the middle of Astonishing, it is called Shadow and Flame.
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    I too have a few X-Men peeple i would like to see solo trades from like Cyclops, Colosus, Kitty Pride, Pixie, Psylocke, Beast, Fantomex, James Madrox, Magneto and Wolfsbane think ill scan through Wiki and Amazon later :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muldwych View Post
    I too have a few X-Men peeple i would like to see solo trades from like Cyclops, Colosus, Kitty Pride, Pixie, Psylocke, Beast, Fantomex, James Madrox, Magneto and Wolfsbane think ill scan through Wiki and Amazon later :-)
    Cyclops has the OOP "Retribution," a collection of early Marvel Comics Presents issues. He also has the early 00s Icons limited series, which may have been collected at some point, but I've never seen it.

    Colossus has a similarly OOP MCP collection, God's Country, plus an Astonishing-era mini collected cheaply in TPB as Colossus: Bloodlines.

    Kitty has some great solo and duo trades, particularly Wolverine & Kitty Pryde, X-Treme X-Men: Mechanix, and Shadow and Flame. Her Pryde & Wisdom mini is in the Warren Ellis Excalibur Visionaries. So far her Agent of SHIELD and X-Men: True Friends are uncollected.

    Pixie has Pixie Strikes Back, which is a pretty entertaining read, plus the Free Comic Book day issue collected in Uncanny X-Men: Manifest Destiny, in which she also stars.

    Psylocke's 2010 limited series is awesome in my opinion, but the TPB recently went out-of-stock at Amazon, so grab it cheap if you see it. There is also Uncanny X-Men: First Foursaken and X-Men Die By the Sword, which both feature her heavily. She fronted the 90s Crimson Dawn mini, which was never collected. She also plays a big part in the Captain Britain Omnibus.

    Beast has a lamentable late-90s mini, but also was effectively the main character of the somber Endangered Species backup stories, which are collected into their own TPB/HC.

    Madrox had his own limited series, which was effectively X-Factor Volume 0, but it can be a little tricky to get a hold of.

    Marvel needs to get their act together when it comes to a Magneto collection, there's really nothing. Somewhere much higher on this thread or the other X-Questions thread I have outlined all of his key appearances.

    To my knowledge, there are no significant solo outings from Wolfsbane and Fantomex. Also, I know he's not on your list, but the first TPB of the recent Nightcrawler ongoing series was really awesome.
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    Thank you sir, you are a legend.

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    Just finished X-men second coming....I'm trying to figure out what trades and in what order to get the rest of the story....so far i have found:

    Uncanny X-Men: The Birth of Generation Hope
    Generation Hope: The Future's a Four-Lettered Word
    Generation Hope: Schism
    Uncanny X-Men, Vol. 1

    Is this the correct order and is there anything else I should be checking out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xspork View Post
    Just finished X-men second coming....I'm trying to figure out what trades and in what order to get the rest of the story....so far i have found:

    Uncanny X-Men: The Birth of Generation Hope
    Generation Hope: The Future's a Four-Lettered Word
    Generation Hope: Schism
    Uncanny X-Men, Vol. 1

    Is this the correct order and is there anything else I should be checking out?
    This is the best I've been able to do - the tightness of events in the Wolverine book vs. Wolverine appearing through-out XMv3 confuses things a lot!

    Code:
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                                   |X-Men:V1|              |V2 > 1st2Last >--FF--| |      |
                      |GHope: V1 --+--> V2--|                                      |--V2--|
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    2ndC>UXM: 5Lights-> Qurntn--> Brkng Pnt-> -----------------FI------------------>Schism|
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       |NM: Fall/Rise |------ --+-----------|     | UnfinBiz > FI |                |
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                      |XML: Coll> Aftermath > AoX > Aftermath|    |LLegions+5Miles |

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    Is uncanny x-force in the normal marvel universe? If so, should I pick it up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by krisis View Post
    This is the best I've been able to do - the tightness of events in the Wolverine book vs. Wolverine appearing through-out XMv3 confuses things a lot!

    Code:
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                                   |X-Men:V1|              |V2 > 1st2Last >--FF--| |      |
                      |GHope: V1 --+--> V2--|                                      |--V2--|
                      |                     |          (Children's Crusade)        |      |
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    2ndC>UXM: 5Lights-> Qurntn--> Brkng Pnt-> -----------------FI------------------>Schism|
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       |NM: Fall/Rise |------ --+-----------|     | UnfinBiz > FI |                |
                      |         |           |     |          |    |                |
                      |XML: Coll> Aftermath > AoX > Aftermath|    |LLegions+5Miles |
    Wow, awesome :D Thanks man, that really helps me out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greger22 View Post
    Is uncanny x-force in the normal marvel universe? If so, should I pick it up?
    It is in the normal universe.

    You should check it out and see if you enjoy it. Don't know what your personal tastes are but the comic is pretty enjoyable.

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    Ok so I'm also going to pick up x-force. Am I missing anything improtant?

    Messiah complex
    Vol1 angels and demons
    Vol2 old ghosts
    Vol3 not forgotten
    Messiah war
    Sex and violence
    Necrosha
    Second coming
    schism

    Then start uncanny x-force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greger22 View Post
    Ok so I'm also going to pick up x-force. Am I missing anything improtant?

    Messiah complex
    Vol1 angels and demons
    Vol2 old ghosts
    Vol3 not forgotten
    Messiah war
    Sex and violence
    Necrosha
    Second coming
    schism

    Then start uncanny x-force.
    If you like Hardcovers, just get X-Force Vol. 1 and 2 oversized HCs, they contain 1-2 and 3+S&V, respectively. That said, you can probably get the TPBs pretty cheap.

    Uncanny X-Force actually hangs together pretty well on its own. It starts almost directly after Second Coming. Volumes 1, 2, and Fear Itself occur before Schism; both Dark Angel volumes occur after Schism.
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