SL is right in that the fight with FBorn was probably a huge fight seeing as to how Azzarello doesn't like to write them and perhaps he rushed it or didn't approach it thoroughly. I'm glad it works for SLVN since he is very creative and enjoys interpreting the unsaid or unseen sometimes. He'd rather figure out what happened than be shown. There's a certain merit to that. I thought that was a great issue! Great action, for once! But was it a WW Vs. Genocide? Nope. I know everyone hated Genocide and the whole topic of it, but I really liked it and the book (for me) had a great sense of urgency, OMG, WTH,WTF, and OH S*** to it.
The fight of Not-Aleka (Artemis) vs. The White Magician was also an issue where you knew some s*** was coming down the pike. I would've understood 3-DAY Comas after those. But here? yeah.. I just didn't "feel" that and it was a little weird to read that.
But hey.. that's OK! It's not as if I didn't enjoy the 3-DAY Coma idea for what it was. If we all agreed on everything I guess there would be not much to discuss around here!
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In v4 #22, the coma's surprising, absolutely--largely because her wounds were internal, as we find out in 22. We agree that we were not led to expect the comma' sorry to keep repeating that, but I get the impression that you thought I was saying otherwise. But after being surprised, I look back and realize that it happened not after one to four pages but after two straight issues of fighting with Artemis and then First Born, and that Artemis points out Wonder Woman was fighting gods while repressing her own god power. None of that is "wandering"; it's all on the page.
You might care about that, because you wanted the intensity of the fight and the severity of its results to be immediately clear. That's a valid and legitimate criticism that your and others are making; I may not share it, but I don't think it's unreasonable at all. I just doubt that the reasons it was done this way was that Azz and Chiang were "rushed" or anything like that. They have pretty consistently chosen not to be obvious. If you think that in this case that was a terrible choice, you're not wrong; it was terrible by your criteria. But I think it's what they were going for, and you just have different taste than they do.
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Internal injueries are the trick...no one can see with bare eyes and the outside sometimes doesn't show it. It can or not be true. Really clever Azz.
I know about some internal injuries stories that people died
I don't like fight scenes in comics, but...
This isn't a novel. It is graphic storytelling. If the graphics are not telling the story that needs to be told (the intensity of the fight), then that is a weakness. Whether it is by choice or not by choice, is beside the point (and also something that we do not know).
If Doomsday had killed Superman because of unseen internal injuries from a few slugs, there would have been a bit of fan uproar.
Every artist does not excel equally in every aspect of the genre. WW has had a quite a few artists who have been weak in their depiction of action. Drew Johnson was particularly weak in this area. Chiang's work also has a tendency to "sit" on the page and let Azzarello's words do the informing.
Storytelling isn't arithmetic. Every choice that you or I don't like isn't necessarily an error. It's a bad choice from your or my point of view, but not objectively an error.
For me, Chiang's work does more than it's share of the "informing" and the storytelling. For example, pivoting back to 28, think of the scene in which Diana and the Minotaur are put together; it seems to me that the image does a lot of work there.Chiang's work also has a tendency to "sit" on the page and let Azzarello's words do the informing.
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