Why isn't Wonder Woman...

[Cloak]

...considered(or written as) the league's most intelligent memeber if she is 'wise as Athena', the patron goddess of wisdom and tactical warfare?(which leads me to question why isn't she portrayed as fater when she is faster than the god of speed?)

I've only just gotten into DC comics within the past year or so, but it seems to me that Wonder Woman, despite her status as a member of the trinity, doesn't get the same epic treatment that is bestowed upon Superman and often Captain Marvel.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

Wonder Woman's always gonna come in second when it comes to her abilities because writers and readers tend to want to use the other characters instead....because....well...they're more interesting to most people.

I mean, if you wanna see a spectacular display of strength or inspiration, Superman's the guy most want to see doing something like that.

A cunning plan? People want to see Batman come up with that stuff...

A feat of amazing speed? The Flash.

Honestly, the only thing I think a lot of people look to WW for is T&A.

I've seen dozens of different writers try to make WW more interesting to readers and none have managed to succeed....

[The Shadow]

I've seen dozens of different writers try to make WW more interesting to readers and none have managed to succeed....

George Perez did.

He showed there was substance there and that with the right attitude Wonder Woman could be as interesting (if not moreso) than some of the male heroes. Unfortunatly after he left lesser writers came onboard and she was reverted back to the T&A.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

George Perez did.

I think Perez came close, but even he didn't exactly set comicdom on fire with his WW series. He's still the best regarded WW creator to date, but that's still like being the world's tallest midget.

[Kaskratiski]

Wonder Woman's always gonna come in second when it comes to her abilities because writers and readers tend to want to use the other characters instead....because....well...they're more interesting to most people.

I mean, if you wanna see a spectacular display of strength or inspiration, Superman's the guy most want to see doing something like that.

A cunning plan? People want to see Batman come up with that stuff...

A feat of amazing speed? The Flash.

Honestly, the only thing I think a lot of people look to WW for is T&A.

I've seen dozens of different writers try to make WW more interesting to readers and none have managed to succeed....

That's precisely why WW can be such a kickass character: She can be fast, cunning AND strong...and she should be the best fighter in the DC Universe.
I think DC would hesitate in even implying that the female of the trinity could be all those things, even though her mythos proves that she is: She is allegedly as strong as Gaea, the Earth...as fast as the God of Speed and as intelligent as the Goddess Of Wisdom?
HELLO,DC!!!!

[comic_lover]

...considered(or written as) the league's most intelligent memeber if she is 'wise as Athena', the patron goddess of wisdom and tactical warfare?(which leads me to question why isn't she portrayed as fater when she is faster than the god of speed?)

I've only just gotten into DC comics within the past year or so, but it seems to me that Wonder Woman, despite her status as a member of the trinity, doesn't get the same epic treatment that is bestowed upon Superman and often Captain Marvel.

One word.....Batman.He trumps all Gods of Wonder Woman's mythos.

[Zombified2000]

One word.....Batman.He trumps all Gods of Wonder Woman's mythos.

Dude, WW could crush him in like one punch. I seriously think she is the best warrior in the DC universe. Another person I think is underrated is Captain Marvel. those two greeks are insane, I mean, Captain Marvel has the strength of Hercules (It should be Heracles, but I digress) the wisdom of Solomon, Power of Zuess, Stamina of Atlas, all that stuff!

[Eliseu Gouveia]

What?
A girl on top?
Un-thin-ka-ble!

Women are only good for making food and babies.
I don´t CARE if she´s as strong as this planet herself, she should need to ask for Superman´s help everytime she needs a jar open, period.

[Zombified2000]

What?
A girl on top?
Un-thin-ka-ble!

Women are only good for making food and babies.
I don´t CARE if she´s as strong as this planet herself, she should need to ask for Superman´s help everytime she needs a jar open, period.

Dude, that better be a joke, I mean honestly, that is the dumbest thing I've heard in a while, and I've heard alot of dumb things. Dude, alot of girls can be "on top" (As a matter of fact, sometime's it's bettter that way :D )

Elektra can kick the crap out of DD any day of the week, and for sure, WW can take out superman!

[kane]

Do we know how wise Athena is? She is just called the goddess of wisom, but that does not means that she is wiser than lets say Batman.
The gods of Dc are just superhuman beeings made by the godwave.

btw: And Elektra cannot kick the crap out of DD (a trained man fights always better than a trained woman - a man is bigger, stronger, and faster. Even in boxing or other fights betwen man, there are weight classes), but this is not the question of the thread

[Zombified2000]

But, didn't she beat him nearly to death before? I mean Bullseys kicked the living **** out of her, but I seem to remember that being part of marvel continuity

and if you're the goddess of wisdom, you have to be wise. Or else you're not a goddess of that, I mean...it's obvious

[kane]

and if you're the goddess of wisdom, you have to be wise. Or else you're not a goddess of that, I mean...it's obvious

And how fast is the god of speed? If he runs 200 mph he is faster than any human, is that enough? And how strong is the earth (gea)?

And how can you measure wisdom. How much wiser than a human you have to be to be called a goddes of wisdom?

And in the greek mythology Athena not always acted wise.

[Forsaken_One]

Not to mention wisdom does not equal intelligence. Ana a very wise person can still know nothing about tactics whatsoever.

I think the biggest problem is you're expecting anyone to be used to their full potential in JLA. But no one is. Most stories Flash could solve by vibrating through a few people or moving almost faster than they could think. Superman is fast enough to do a lot, burn up weapons, or do other things that could end the story before the arc even begins. Batman's made to be much more intelligent and prepared than he is in his normal books in order to let him dwell with what amount to modern gods. Hell, even Green Lantern could do a hell of a lot more but every time we see John he's using his ring as a shield and blast weapon. He never thinks of doing both things at once or making blasts come from other areas or... well or anything original. So he doesn't live up to his power level either. Everyone's changed in power levels and/or intelligence levels in order to fit into a team enviornment.

[Zombified2000]

Well, she still acts wiser than batman, because as smart as he is, he's just a human. I mean, if you're a goddes you have to have an infinite amount of wisdom, despite her not always acting wise, neither has batman

[kane]

Not to mention wisdom does not equal intelligence. Ana a very wise person can still know nothing about tactics whatsoever.

I think the biggest problem is you're expecting anyone to be used to their full potential in JLA. But no one is. Most stories Flash could solve by vibrating through a few people or moving almost faster than they could think. Superman is fast enough to do a lot, burn up weapons, or do other things that could end the story before the arc even begins. Batman's made to be much more intelligent and prepared than he is in his normal books in order to let him dwell with what amount to modern gods. Hell, even Green Lantern could do a hell of a lot more but every time we see John he's using his ring as a shield and blast weapon. He never thinks of doing both things at once or making blasts come from other areas or... well or anything original. So he doesn't live up to his power level either. Everyone's changed in power levels and/or intelligence levels in order to fit into a team enviornment.

Thats it.
Even in their own books they often do not use their whole potential. For example Superman often forgets his own superspeed in fist fights.