I think could also agree that the Amazons should be updated. I could do without them being a bunch of men hating savages.
"It isn't jumping the shark if you never come back down." Chuck
I think realism is fine as long as it adapts to the changing world. Imagine how much our world would change if Superman showed up tomorrow...what would society be like a year after that? The MOSII world should be completely different from MOS in that the world has witnessed the impossible and a god now lives among them. Things dont need to be grounded, but they dont need to be over the top crazy either. Stay true to sci fi and make it blend well.
I think the WW origin should be handled as rumor. I think her story should be handled as all great mysterious people's stories are...with hypothesis and conjecture. have people discuss Steve Trevor offhand and the mysterious island where he met WW. Have people mention they have heard stories about the daughter of Zeus lost to time or how she was molded from clay to be a warrior. Embrace the fact that in the comics she has various origins by using those various origins to cloud her character in mystery. (for those that watched Smallville, think of how they used the Flash and how he had aliases as all the various Flashes from the comics) You can further flesh it out in her solo movie. Maybe the WW film is her quest to learn her origin and save the Amazon people.
Batman all you need to do is have Lois talk about Bruce Wayne when he visits Metropolis (or they visit Gotham) and how he has obviously been damaged by the death of his parents. Batman should be a rumor...almost a Kaiser Soze type character that few have seen and no one speaks about. He is similar to the Post-Crisis Urban Legend version...
I also think Star Labs should be introduced and a massive accident should happen...mention the name of a certain doctor whose son is a football player. Or, if they go the Martian Manhunter route...maybe have Clark interview a cop for a story...have his name be "Jones" and play off that.
I think hints should be made to previous heroic actions that had been ignored previously. Before Superman things like that were often treated like ghost sightings or Area 51 conspiracy theories, but since the Massacre in Metropolis (I love that title...I can see Lex using that in interviews and as the headline of newspapers) the government has been researching and finding out the truth. Hints of CADMUS or Checkmate, nods to characters that might not be shown but are Easter Eggs. (Arrow is all over this...like what they did with Vibe and Iris West in the last episode) Build the world by adding to the tapestry, not beating us over the head with a hammer.
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Yeah I don't mind some reality mixed in with the fantasy but not too real that it becomes boring. For instance in MOS they explored the possibility that what if there are other lifeforms out there and exactly how much power they'll posses. Pretty much like RL in the possibility of other lifeforms in space has been a subject of debate.
With Superman and the Kryptonians exposed I wouldn't mind people questioning the possibility that what if other things man believed are false happens to be true? It leaves open for alot of easter eggs WB can put in. Like how Arrow is doing when building it's universe.
I like how Diana's origin concept should be handled but I think with Diana it should be a sense of adventure kind of thing. She wishes to explore other worlds and learn from its culture so she stopped by on our world with interest to learn about the culture and the people who live in it.
"It isn't jumping the shark if you never come back down." Chuck
I agree on Diana, she came to "Man's World" to explore and learn. She can articulate her motivations I just think her origin should be shrouded in mystery.
I also think Superman's existence should cause people to believe what was once unbelievable. Maybe mention myths like Atlantis, something most mock as ridiculous but now something worth exploring. (bam you just added Aquaman without casting or anything) Taking zyrsons idea of a robot, maybe have it be created by T.O. Morrow or a Professor Ivo. There is all sorts of ways to use Superman as the ushering in the era of the Superhero while still having heroes exist previous to him...they just were myths and legends before, jokes and stories that showed up on the History Channel on Ancient Aliens or the like. (like maybe the idea of a Martian Society in the past) Maybe make mention of entire industries popping up that have been exploring these legends in the hopes of finding out truths. (and cashing in)
I wont lie, I really wish Harry Lennix's character had been "General Jones" so he could end up being J'onn. He would just be so damned perfect in the role...
I will say that it is a huge blessing in disguise that Marvel does not have the X-Men and Spider-Man rights, otherwise they'd probably just cram Wolverine and Spidey down people's throats like WB does with Batman. That's a lot of why less famous characters like Iron Man and Thor have gotten their chance to shine.
There is no chance WB will ever get Superman right. They just hate the character too much, and you cannot have any success with something you don't believe in.
Doomed Planet. Desperate Scientists. Last Hope. Kindly Couple.
Yeah WB hates their characters...that is why they have spent the past 2 decades putting them all over TV including now not just Arrow but Flash, Constantine, Gotham and iZombie. (not to mention more in the pipeline) Add in 10 years of Smallville, 10 years of the DCAU, the DC Animated movies etc yeah WB sure does hate their heroes.
I don't think realism means what's being said here. It has to do with how would the world actually react if these super-powered beings existed. It also means grounding the characters in things familiar (like how WW might be a demi-goddess but maybe we see her argue with her mother, something we all can relate to). Think about it, was SM depowered in MOS or was any unbelievable elements left out? I would argue the alien aspects were amplified, even the addition of the codex upped the ante. I have no worries that WW will lose her mystical origins. As for BM, he's a mortal, but I'd love some cool never-before-seen bat gadgets. Sometimes it seems 007 has better toys.
If you can dish it out but can't take it...you are neither Super nor a Man.