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I think it will make sense in the movie universe, since Tony already created his Jarvis A.I.. Besides, Hank Pym is a biochemist, not a computer engineer, so it's more logical to have Tony be the creator.
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That's been my theory from the moment I heard Ultron would be the nemesis, and Pym would not be involved. They're making Stark Ultron's creator.
I've been an Iron Man fan my whole life. By fan, I mean that when everyone else was buying and talking about Spider-Man and Batman, I was alone in a corner reading Iron Man. Additionally, I am generally against modifying the source material for no reason other than people in power wishing to leave their fingerprints on the product.
That being said, I am in favor of this change.
Marvel is trying to diminish Hank & Jan's importance in Avengers history, the same way they're trying to up Captain America's. If Marvel could do it all over again, they'd make Captain America a founding member (which he never was) and they'd introduce the Pyms later, simply because they currently occupy 2 very important seats at the top of the pyramid reserved for founding members, and were never able to parlay that into solo success.
But beyond Marvel's own inner shame at having these two insignificant characters present for so many of the team's big moments, it never really did make sense for Pym to create Ultron. Pym is supposed to be a scientist, not a mechanic or robotics expert; that was always Tony's thing. And if it's also Pym's thing, and he's that good at it, why isn't he worth the same gazillions Stark is? It just makes sense. And here are more reasons why.
First, it elevates Ultron by giving him The Invincible Iron Man – not Ant-Man – as his arch-nemesis. His daddy issues will now be with the brightest star of Marvel's movieverse. If you had to send the entire JLA after one of its members' rogues, wouldn't it make more sense if it was one of Superman's? You gotta figure that all this firepower wouldn't be needed to dispose of, say, one of Red Tornado's rogues. ;)
Second, am I the only one who's noticed that Marvel has been borrowing from the Ultron design to update the Iron Man armor? It began when Jorge Lucas introduced the first armor that actually looked like armor, with actually thought-out points of articulation in Iron Man Vol 3 #73, although you can see it better on the cover of #74.
But it wasn't until New Avengers that Marvel made Iron Man go all Ultron on us.
While the movie armor doesn't quite look like that, you still understand why, if you placed all the Avengers in a line-up and asked which of them would be Ultron's foil, most people would point at Iron Man.
Third reason this makes sense is that it addresses the Iron Man 3 "Iron Army" problem. If Stark can now control multiple Iron Man armors from a distance, the very nature of the character changes. He's not a superhero anymore. There needs to be a good reason for Stark to stop operating armors from a distance, and having one of them gain sentience and self-evolve is as good a reason as any.
Accidentally creating Ultron while testing AI options for the Iron Man armors is the best way to get Stark to refuse to let an armor leave the house without him inside it, piloting it directly. Genie re-inserted in the bottle, Iron Man 4 gives us only 1 Iron Man piloted by Tony Stark, and everything is right with the world again.
Why cannot Ultron be created by something Thanos does/sends? Maybe some sort of alien techno virus designed for revenge?
jyeager11, great points... love the "genie re-inserted in the bottle" bit.
I have a feeling that very few Avengers fans will mind this change, except perhaps Hank Pym's most stalwart devotees. If they want to introduce Ultron, it is unwieldy to introduce Pym first unless they want to wait for Avengers 3 to make an Ultron movie. Stark works just as well. Like Hank, he is deeply flawed. In fact, Stark's hubris leading to the creation of Ultron, and a subsequent self imposed leave of absence would be an elegant way to write Stark out of the majority of Phase 3 since Downy is getting more and more expensive.
I think it was Next Avengers Cartoon that had Tony creating Ultron. And it made good sense for the movie the story they were telling. I think it makes great sense for the Avengers movie sequel.
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Interesting choice. I like it.
It would be a neat twist if Tony Stark transferred Dum-E's programming into a android body and gave him a "cooler" name out of respect: Ultron. Ultron's hatred of humanity is due in part to Tony treating him like shit all those years and believes humans are all the same. Unlikely, but funny.
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