Not quite, posters have a habit making it out to be more than it was Rachel blocked Thor's attack and then attacked him and then Namor handled the rest she didn't humble him and neither did Jean in ANXM. If Rachel or Adult Jean fought Thor one on one they would lose and badly and there is no questioning that.
And just to be clear Rachel would not stand a chance against Storm. And neither would Jean, Emma, Psylocke, or Xavier she has the perfect powerset for combating high level psychics.
darknessatnoon: I knew you were the only reasonable R'Chell Summers fan.
IIRC with Rachel, when she was possessed by Elias Bogan he had her telepathy and Emma's knowledge of Storm's mind and yet Storm still fried him. And during World's End, Rachel believing herself to be apart of the Hauka did not diminish her power or skill in the slightest, and she was already an experienced telepath at that time. At that point Rachel coud not subdue Storm's mind with her TP assault and would have been blown away had she not been anchored by Raina. In support of Rachel's power though Storm stated she would need to kill her in order to completely free herself. And in the second instance Storm's lightning scrambled Rachel's telepathy when she tried to subdue Storm's mind, and she needed to be brought closer to Ororo to be more effective, be anchored against the wind by Raina again, and was only seconds away from not being able to subdue Storm period via telepathy. It was after Storm was sedated that Rachel established a direct link to Storm's power and bypassed her concious control completely that she was able to generate the hyper-storms around the globe. And that still took Rachel's full concentration.
In addition to that classic Psylocke, Shadow King, and Emma Frost's telepathy have all been overcome by Storm. More often than not Storm has been written to have one of the strongest wills of the X-Men, and some of the best TP resistance feats on the x-roster.
I know If it came down to an all out brawl, which I doubt will be the case (these ladies have been good friends for quite a few years so I don't see that happening), I think it's a fight that could really go either way.
And Unit's a telepath? Where was that confirmed? I know he "controlled" the X-Men but I don't recall it being stated that it was via telepathy.
In the X-Men/Spider-Man team up I recall Sinister psionically attacking the X-Men, and even then there was no proof that she couldn't resist him since it was a very shortlived attack (though none of the X-Men could really hurt him physically anyway). And under Gillen's pen, which he wrote most of the X-Men quite badly throughout his run IMO (he wrote the villains better than the most powerful x-team to date), didn't Sinister have multiple clones simultaneously using their TP to subdue the X-Men, and not just himself? I blocked most of Gillen's run out of my mind so I could be off on that, but I believe it was not just TP coming from Sinister alone.
This is true but Claremont honestly had a habit of doing that with all his characters short of Storm, and while I do think she has the tool to defeat high level psychics I think Claremont could go overboard sometimes with how much "better" he had Storm as in comparison to the other X-ladies.
Sun and Moon
Ororo Munroe...God's own X-MAN
Storm deserves her very own solo ongoing...unfortunately..."Limited minds place limits on everything but their own foolishness." (aja_c.)
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As much as I hail Claremont he had such an obvious bias towards Wolverine and Storm.
On physical force, I still see it being pretty even. In this case it's wind/atmospheric pressure/lightning vs telekinetic force. I think it's a fight that could really go either way. A solid it from either one could end it.