PREVIEW: New Avengers, #4

[Van Custo]

I'll be honest. I had no idea what a Dyson sphere was before this issue. NA is very good so far.

[saucemaster]

They've got three ruling kings. The Illuminati are fine in the political philosophy area. That's not to say Magneto wouldn't have been a great addition in many ways, including, representing the mutants.

If the Illuminati are supposed to represent various groups (which they don't), I think Magneto has a more broad world view than Avenger-biologist McCoy. I think two of those Kings you mentioned don't care much about the politics outside their own realms. Black Bolt should have asked 'If an another Earth is colliding with our Earth, is there going to be a 2nd Moon, too?'

Actually, Kitty Pryde might make a better mutant advocate than Magneto, and she is certainly genius-level -- beyond Strange, Black Bolt, and Namor, at least.

Of course, maybe they should have Victor Von Doom or Ock in there to represent the unhinged geniuses of the world, too.

[saucemaster]

I could see Black Bolt building a Dyson Sphere back when he was running the Kree.

The resources of a space empire would cover that kind of thing.

This?......this should be beyond even
Stark and Reed teamed up, let alone Stark by himself.

If you told me that all the Illuminati together build it I'd buy that too.

I'm not saying it kills the story or anything but dag? And I'm a Iron Man fan.

Money and technology aside, don't you need like a moon or asteroids or a planet to mine to build something like that? The physical resources required are almost unimaginable. But I guess Stark has access to the Negative Zone or something.

[Victor Freeman]

If the Illuminati are supposed to represent various groups (which they don't), I think Magneto has a more broad world view than Avenger-biologist McCoy. I think two of those Kings you mentioned don't care much about the politics outside their own realms. Black Bolt should have asked 'If an another Earth is colliding with our Earth, is there going to be a 2nd Moon, too?'

Actually, Kitty Pryde might make a better mutant advocate than Magneto, and she is certainly genius-level -- beyond Strange, Black Bolt, and Namor, at least.

Of course, maybe they should have Victor Von Doom or Ock in there to represent the unhinged geniuses of the world, too.

Both Namor and Black Panther do care about the politics out side of their realms, otherwise neither would have joined the Avengers and Namor woul have not fought the Nazi's.

[chariset]

I'm not saying Strange is the only one at fault... just saying this is an example of why he's here. This is what he brings to the table.

The power to clean up loose ends?

I'm loving this book so far, but Hickman's focus has been entirely on the science-minded characters like Reed, Tony, and T'Challa, as if this is a problem for science to solve. When is Strange going to get some focus? When is his knowledge going to be deployed?

[Dkrook]

Beast is smart enough, but he is just a scientist like Pym. I think Richards has a handle on the science, but no politics. The Illuminati need someone with more political or social 'philosophy', like Magneto.

Thats why you have Tchalla.

[jphamlore]

The power to clean up loose ends?

I'm loving this book so far, but Hickman's focus has been entirely on the science-minded characters like Reed, Tony, and T'Challa, as if this is a problem for science to solve. When is Strange going to get some focus? When is his knowledge going to be deployed?

Wasn't Strange's knowledge deployed mind-wiping Captain America?

[chariset]

Wasn't Strange's knowledge deployed mind-wiping Captain America?

See: again, is Hickman really keeping him in this book just to do dirty business like that?

[vitruvian]

That would be my guess. I can't believe he's got those kind of resources.

Well, yeah. The entire planet doesn't have those kinds of resources. Even converting the entire mass of the Earth wouldn't start to build a tiny percentage of Dyson sphere, even if it was only a meter or two thick.

I wonder if anybody has noticed that Tony stole Jupiter?

[vitruvian]

Using the power of a star to destroy a planet, well done Tony.

I thought he was building the thing so they could easily offload the population of whichever version of Earth needs to get destroyed. Black Swan said one Earth had to be destroyed, not that it had to have any people on it.

[vitruvian]

The illumunati are trying to destroy a earth the beyonder could be useful.

Have they collected the Starbrand yet?

[PlanetaryDevastation]

A Dyson Sphere!

The fact that Tony has the resources to build that suggests that he doesn't even need it. I'm eager for an explanation.

[jphamlore]

I'll be honest. I had no idea what a Dyson sphere was before this issue. NA is very good so far.

I think I'm missing something very basic. I thought a Dyson sphere was something like that Star Trek: Next Generation episode where a forgotten civilization built one to encapsulate an entire star. The structure Stark is having built would seem to be a lot flimsier than that one.

Could Stark be actually building some kind of deflector shield?

[jackolover]

Black Bolt should call in Maximus the Mad. What could possibly go wrong?

Hopefully nothing, but Max is the genius. He'd rig up a massive Black Bolt voice converter into 6 Marshall amps and blast that thing
With "DESTROY".

Mind you, this Dyson Sphere is just to destroy an alternate Earth right? How does that stop the Incursions from continuing?

The way I see it is, the Illuminati have created an anti-proton bomb on the 616 Earth. the Black Swan wanted them too, so one exists on here. Then, at the Incursion event, Black Swan takes her trigger device, gets teleported to the invading Earth, and blows up 616 Earth when she jumps off ours onto theirs. Then the process starts again. It is the definition of a vicious cycle.

[Brannon]

Why exactly were the Illuminati allowed to keep the gems? When Starlin originally created them, they were in the possession of extremely powerful cosmic beings like the Inbetweener and the Elders of the Universe. It seems odd to me that the REAL Illuminati (Galactus, Eternity, the Stranger, etc) would allow such a thing to happen. Do I smell Bendis?

I have Hickman's FF run but haven't read it yet. Is this explained in any way?