Namely, that the Psyche-Magnitron that magnified and enhanced Carol into Ms Marvel didn't just turn her into the pinnacle of power, but into the ULTIMATE HUMAN as well! Namely, it worked like the Kree-version of the Super-Soldier serum, so she turned into a taller, musclier, BUSTIER and BOOTIER bootilicious version of herself.
I.e, one of Ms Marvel's powers is actually her now almost super-human good looks. This optimization was then transferred to Rogue as well, when she absorbed her powers.
But again like I said this is like talking to a Clinton supporter about Monica or a Nixon supporter about Watergate. No matter what the wrong done people have the ability to minimize it and even paint the victim as the criminal. For myself I try not to pay too much attention and keep telling myself not to pay attention, but Carol is a character I once really enjoyed reading and every so often I pay attention.
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As far as Claremont, Carol and Rogue goes, (thanks to mikeb for cluing ME to this) Claremont wrote a pretty sweet wrap up to their relationship at the very end of Contest of Champions 2. Basically, Carol had a chance to kill Rogue or leave her behind, but Carol says that Rogue is a proven X-man, saving the world over and over, she's a hero and that what happened between them can't be undone but that it might be forgiven. That's pretty cool, eh?
The Rogue fan in me kind of hates Carol for being so forgiving, for being the bigger woman and that's why I would LOVE for Rogue to personally take a bullet for Carol. Me, personally, I would hate to be in that spot and just even it out, OR for Carol to go Dark Phoenix and almost kill Rogue (not really). Again though, I think fans of both have a great situation and let me just say that both Fan Appreciation sites for both women have awesome people (like mikeb, jen, lily, MARK S., CJ, antiochene and everyone else!!)
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Anyhoo, I like both Carol and Rogue as well. Rogue may be my fave, but Carol is no slouch! ;-)
Somehow, I feel it worth noting...
My intro to the Marvel Universe, like so many people right round my age, was the 90s X-Men cartoon. Rogue was my favorite. It really was through Rogue that I got my first exposure to Carol. I still have much love for Rogue, but we all know who my favorite is.
I am biased, I've been for a long time now. But if Rogue didn't mean to kill Carol on that bridge what was she going to do? I don't like either of them now but I didn't like Rogue to start with and to be honest I thought the reason Carol took of after the X-men wouldn't buck Charles when he favored Rogue over Carol -and the reason Carol forgave her later- was because Charles altered Carol's mind to make her more forgiving. I can't see how you could forgive someone who -at the very least- turned your life into hell and profited by it. Rogue would never have been the hero she was seen to be if she hadn't had Carol's powers (another reason I figured that Charles favored her over Carol, Rogue was a powerhouse that he could add to the X-men) and this was demonstrated perfectly in the X-men cartoon of the 1990's where Carol was mercilessly sealed into Rogue's mind by Jean and promptly forgotten about. To the X-men she was a fellow mutant and they didn't care how she got her powers. In the comics they did care, they did give her a hard time, but in the end they chose Carol over Rogue. Carol has had a lot of friends stab her in the back over the years. Maybe that's why I can't really forget what she did in cw where she stabbed friends in the back and -like Rogue- profited by it becoming head of the Avengers and gaining her own SHIELD strike force because she was the best at hunting down heroes. The last thing you expect someone who knows the sting of betrayal to do is betray another.