ECCC: Marvel's Pint O' C.B. LIVE!

[CBR News]

Creators from Matt Fraction to Mark Waid and from Brian Posehn to Daniel Way, an all-star lineup of Marvel Comics creators take the stage in Seattle, and CBR is on hand LIVE! with continuing updates.


Full article here.

[punisher97]

Is anything going to be announced here, or do we have to wait until tomorrow? Marvel isn't showing anything about the ECCC at their site or on their twitter.

[Songbird/Diamondback]

Ooooh, Bunn is there!

[punisher97]

According to the ECCC site, this is the panel "everybody will be talking about." I don't see it so far.

[klinton]

Yeah...it's pretty flat so far.

[punisher97]

Soon, Fraction will do an issue about sign language when Hawkeye's hearing is damaged again.

Finally, an announcement, and an interesting one!

Edit: Wow, this really was a flat panel. Only one real announcement.

[JJSperos]

[A_Nominus]

According to the ECCC site, this is the panel "everybody will be talking about." I don't see it so far.

Maybe it was written by whoever does the issue solicits.

[punisher97]

Maybe it was written by whoever does the issue solicits.

Probably. It seems like every event book solicit goes something like "This is the issue you can't miss," or "This will change the Marvel Universe forever."

[klinton]

Oh...wow. Sign language, minorities, Spider-man will continue having adventures and Thunderbolts is a really red book.

I am SO glad I tuned in for this. I feel informed.

[Heroid]

Is anything going to be announced here, or do we have to wait until tomorrow? Marvel isn't showing anything about the ECCC at their site or on their twitter.

It seems more and more that any announcements are saved for either NYC or San Diego and that the panels at all other cons are just tent revivals for the faithful where all they do is spew rhetoric and hype up their books. Their books (mostly) suck these days so the Marvel (and DC) panel at any particular con is a waste of time. I'd rather spend my convention time going through dollar boxes or talking to Silver-Age creators or visiting the Indy sections.

[Heroid]

Is anything going to be announced here, or do we have to wait until tomorrow? Marvel isn't showing anything about the ECCC at their site or on their twitter.

It seems more and more that any announcements are saved for either NYC or San Diego and that the panels at all other cons are just tent revivals for the faithful where all they do is spew rhetoric and hype up their books. Their books (mostly) suck these days so the Marvel (and DC) panel at any particular con is a waste of time. I'd rather spend my convention time going through dollar boxes or talking to Silver-Age creators or visiting the Indy sections.

[PM Agria]

Matt Fraction said:

"Consistency is more important than continuity," agreed Fraction. "Continuity is the devil. It makes for bad stories...It becomes punishing and alienating to new readers."

This is the biggest fallacy I keep reading and listening now and then coming from LAZY comic writers.

Continuity (or, better, the feared word "chronology") is a USEFUL tool if the writer knows how to use it - and he/she can use it to create GOOD stories...

"Oh, new readers don't like..." - bullshit... I began to read Marvel comics in late 1970's, and the main interesting point for me was seeing that the stories were interconnected and there was history behind the characters... and I didn't have internet or OHOTMUs to find information at that time!

Furthermore, one of the most traditional features of Marvel Universe since 1961 is... continuity!

And Fraction... well, he's a good writer... but neither "consistency" is a usual tool for him... (I won't talk about Way... who is worse in that concern... hehe).

[Songbird/Diamondback]

HE said that? Ugh.

Besides, continuity doesn't even bother fans. All you need to do is cram in fan favorites, and they'd say you'd create the next MacBeth.

[TF_loki]

This is the biggest fallacy I keep reading and listening now and then coming from LAZY comic writers.

Continuity (or, better, the feared word "chronology") is a USEFUL tool if the writer knows how to use it - and he/she can use it to create GOOD stories...

Well, pros and cons on that. I get what Fraction is saying and up to a point he's right. Why waste time trying to tidy up Teen Tony or The Crossing or The Clone Saga when you can move on...? The trouble is it feels like sometimes when a new writer takes over a) the old writer has tidied up so there are no loose ends or b) the prior stuff is ignored. So it's stopped feeling like there is any forward momentum on characters.