Anyone feel we are getting to a saturation point?

[klinton]

i said a majority of them aren't avengers material i never said none of them were avengers material

The Shield Reps Aren't Really Worthy Of The Avengers Name

Ouch. I'm sorry. I think I'm overly used to being contrary with you, so I assumed the worst. Seriously, that was rude of me. So accept my genuine apology. :/

Yeah, I'll agree. People like Hill are a little too morally compromised to ever be considered 'Avengers'.

[The Animal Man]

Ouch. I'm sorry. I think I'm overly used to being contrary with you, so I assumed the worst. Seriously, that was rude of me. So accept my genuine apology. :/

Yeah, I'll agree. People like Hill are a little too morally compromised to ever be considered 'Avengers'.

i would take a look at secret avengers if the team wasn't just Nick Fury And The Agents Of Shield With The Avengers name Slapped On the cover

that's the real problem....i don't want to read about hawkeye black widow and some random government agents i wanna read something awesome with a cast of characters that aren't just generic soldiers with guns

[klinton]

i would take a look at secret avengers if the team wasn't just Nick Fury And The Agents Of Shield With The Avengers name Slapped On the cover

that's the real problem....i don't want to read about hawkeye black widow and some random government agents i wanna read something awesome with a cast of characters that aren't just generic soldiers with guns

The thing is that Widow and Mockingbird have always been SHEILD agents. I'm actually stoked to read a SHEILD book starring these two ladies! My favorite Widow stories have always had her acting more the secret agent than the superhero.

So, if anything, it's a return to form for these two. :D

[aNamored]

I ignore 99% of it and read the characters/book(s) I like - it takes a lot of specifics for me to read any team book for more than a couple of issues. Despite my fondness for Doctor Strange and Namor, Hickman lost me as of issue 5 of NA. So I'm down to one $2.99 title: my budget sure isn't complaining. As long as Marvel publishes something I enjoy, I will keep buying.

[USERNAME TAKEN]

again really? The Avenger membership has been huge for decades get over it. Was Starfox so special? Was the swordsman or Rage? The number of teams is the only real change from 10 years ago.

Or Firestar or even Justice.

The Avengers line up simply depends on who's writing the book.

Period.

[Hawkingbird13]

I have no idea where people are getting the idea that Secret Avengers is just a SHIELD book.

Hawkeye: Has been on pretty much every Avengers team
Black Widow: Has been on most teams, worked with SHIELD
Iron Patriot (if it's Rhodey in the suit): West Coast Avengers, not sure about other ones.
Mockingbird: West Coast Avenger, New Avenger, worked for SHIELD
Taskmaster: Tends to be hired by anyone with money, worked for SHIELD
Hulk: Initially a founding member of the Avengers

Hill, Quake, Fury Jr, Coulson: SHIELD, although Hill and Quake have worked with the Avengers.

The majority of the team at least have ties to at least one Avengers team, while four (possibly five, if Iron Patriot is Rhodey) have been fully fledged Avengers on at least one team. It's less of a SHIELD team and more of an Avengers team working with SHIELD, with the members having ties to SHIELD. Like Secret Agent Avengers. Secret Avengers.

[hawkeyefan]

Marvel in the past has tried far more novel experiments with Thor.

A Garth Ennis series with Thor battling zombie Vikings and enlisting allies throughout time I believe.

Thor: Son of Asgard

Loki with painted artwork by Esad Ribic

Thor: For Asgard

President Thor in the Ultimates universe

I'm not sure the surface has been scratched with this character.

Sure. I'm not saying that there aren't plenty of ideas left for Thor, or any other character for that matter. I'm just saying that the more books he is in, and the more writers that are handling him, the quicker they may burn through those ideas, and the murkier the continuity becomes. Now personally, continuity only matter so much to me...I like the broad strokes to make sense and I disregard the minor details. But I know that for others, continuity is a primary concern. So the more writers using a character, and the more often he appears in different series and ways, the more chance of conflicting continuity.

There's honestly not enough, for me personally, at this time. I burn through my Marvel pulls within days of getting them (I've only four Marvel books left to read until next Wednesday already).

I think saturation is a matter of perspective. I've been reading mainly DC titles for years and years. AvX got me reading all over the marvel universe again last year, and I'm in a bit of an infatuation with it all again. I've gone from Cap and a few Avengers titles to reading...most everything. And it's still not enough. I'd love to see more Avengers titles and more existing titles (like Cap, Secret Avengers and Uncanny Avengers) join the double shipping ranks.

To each thier own though. I find myself bored with most everything not Avengers (and even X-men at this time) related. I have stacks of DC and indie books piling up that I can't bring myself to read.

*shrug*

Yeah, it's all opinion. I don't mind the number of Avenger books, but I only read a few. I'd also like to see them do something a little different than another superhero team, you know? Marvel has a ton of properties that could work in a variety of ways. So to me, maybe having 3 or 4 Avengers books and then trying something totally different with another property would help diversify things a bit.

I mean, 7 different takes on the Avengers concept is diverse to an extent...but when you boil it down, it's still the concept of the Avengers, you know?

i said a majority of them aren't avengers material i never said none of them were avengers material

The Shield Reps Aren't Really Worthy Of The Avengers Name

Well, all the superhero characters scheduled to appear have been Avengers, so it makes sense. It's how they are juxtaposed with the SHIELD crew that is going to be one of the focus points for that book...the superheroes being compromised by the spies. At least, that's how issue 1 seemed. It might be a cool concept....I'm on the fence about continuing with that book, though. It was well done...but I jus don't know if I need to be spending more money on yet another form of Avengers book, you know?

[celticguy]

I have no idea where people are getting the idea that Secret Avengers is just a SHIELD book.

Hawkeye: Has been on pretty much every Avengers team
Black Widow: Has been on most teams, worked with SHIELD
Iron Patriot (if it's Rhodey in the suit): West Coast Avengers, not sure about other ones.
Mockingbird: West Coast Avenger, New Avenger, worked for SHIELD
Taskmaster: Tends to be hired by anyone with money, worked for SHIELD
Hulk: Initially a founding member of the Avengers

Hill, Quake, Fury Jr, Coulson: SHIELD, although Hill and Quake have worked with the Avengers.

The majority of the team at least have ties to at least one Avengers team, while four (possibly five, if Iron Patriot is Rhodey) have been fully fledged Avengers on at least one team. It's less of a SHIELD team and more of an Avengers team working with SHIELD, with the members having ties to SHIELD. Like Secret Agent Avengers. Secret Avengers.

The difference is the team is operating as a unit of SHIELD not as an extension of the Avengers. THey are using Avengers but the name is on the book only to pump sales. It is hardly a major sin but I do find it a little annoying. I doubt I will be getting it either way unless Nick Sr. wa on board.