Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)
I despair of engaging in discussions with those who lack imagination.
this cant be happening.....my favourite character in the DC universe is going to die.. WHY GRANT WHY!?!?!?! i'll never forgive you grant, never!
end of spoilers Don't think the Batman and Robin title is going anywhere. Anything from having a female Robin (which DC might do for the hype they'd get from the news) or having Red Robin step in and be Batman's Robin could be done. Given that Batman should be grieving and not wanting to risk another life especially a newbie Robin I'm thinking Tim will be back as Red Robin (or was he ever Batman's Robin? I can't tell with DC's New52 continuity).
I think there is some kind of clone of Damien, forget which book I read it (or was it a Preview?) but he's advanced in age and mostly evil.
As you said at this point when you read as long as some of us have it really doesn't surprise as much anymore. You see the patterns and know the paths it can take, I myself can't help but think of the possibilities. The thing is the journey. Plus just cause you know the ending doesn't mean you can't like it as well. A lot of people grew up knowing Jean Grey dies at the end of the Dark Phoenix Saga, most of us started reading it in trade or classic X-Men and knew the ending already but enjoyed it anyway (or both in my case as I liked the backups in Classic and new covers as well). I don't mind twists as long as it doesn't hinge on an inplausible, or out-of-character, moment.
Kind of bizarre jerk move on DC's part. I mean, we all KNEW something important would happen but it's annoying they'd outright say it.
But at least it sets the clear difference between this and Death of the Family. DOTF promised change and gave nothing whereas Inc will actually change something massive.
If I weren't so lazy, I 'd make a cartoon workforce sign with a bat symbol on it that says "4,000 days without a Robin killed" rotating to read just "0 days"
Mind you I'd have to do better math as to how many days since Steph "died" in that issue in 2004.
On the one hand, Morrison created the character and almost certainly planned to kill him from the start, and I think we can trust Morrison to give him a 'good death.' If this had been the last story before the reboot (plus a few aftermath issues) and then Damian didn't exist in the Nu52 I'd support it. It would be a great place to end the story of Batman if done right. But this isn't 'the end,' for Batman. It's way too soon in the new universe for a move like this, and we know there's another Robin coming down the line who's likely doomed to failure because DC, in addition to alienating a lot of potential fans of the next Robin by killing Damian, will find more ways to screw up the introduction of the next Robin.
My advice to DC is, don't rush the introduction of Robin #5 (6?). Give it at least a year. Then, don't repeat the story of 'A Lonely Place of Dying.' That will only piss off more people, myself included.
DC selling their loyal fans out for a few extra sales to people (hearing the news) that probably don't even know who THIS Robin even is? Never sir! NEVER!
newsarama explain what is happening to Batman & Robin:
This has all been planned well in advance.Now that Damian is gone, readers will see an all silent issue in March's Batman and Robin #18, as writer Peter Tomasi relies completely on his collaborator, artist Patrick Gleason, to tell the story of Batman's heartbreaking loss.
Following that issue, Batman and Robin will show Bruce Wayne going through the five stages of grief. And in the absence of the "Robin" named in the comic's title, Batman will team up with various members of the Bat-family over the coming months (for example, issue #19 will be called Batman and Red Robin, issue #20 is Batman and Red Hood, etcetera.)
Newsarama: Pete, I bet you knew this was coming for awhile, huh?
Peter Tomasi: I did indeed, Vaneta. A few years actually. That's why I kept referring to it as our uber-story every time we spoke.
Last edited by Sheldipez; 02-26-2013 at 10:54 AM.