Amora the enchantress vs professor zoom

[The Animal Man]

Who wins? And has the enchantress had much success against speedy characters?

[big_adventure]

Who wins? And has the enchantress had much success against speedy characters?

Without prep, I guess it comes down to how hard Zoom can hit. I know that he's at the absolute upper tier of speedsters (with the Runner and such) but does he have Wally West-type esoterics and hit-boosters? Can he do the "phase through and blow crap up" stuff? Can he do IMP's? Can he speed-steal? If so, he wins easily, if not, a normal human strength person really can't hurt an Asgardian.

With prep, she'll likely win by virtue of coming in magically intangible or some such nonsense and then mind-fragging Zoom from the safety of her magical protection.

[Siriel]

Without prep, I guess it comes down to how hard Zoom can hit. I know that he's at the absolute upper tier of speedsters (with the Runner and such) but does he have Wally West-type esoterics and hit-boosters? Can he do the "phase through and blow crap up" stuff? Can he do IMP's? Can he speed-steal? If so, he wins easily, if not, a normal human strength person really can't hurt an Asgardian.

Wrong Zoom. You're thinking of Zolomon Hunter. Professor Zoom is Thawne.

(The answer to all those questions for Zolomon is "Yes. Especially if it makes no sense.")

[Sharpandpointies]

Zolomon has literally kicked Wonder Woman around the planet like a kid would kick a hacky-sack around the playground. Boot, she's in Egypt. Boot, she's in Greece. Etc. In the Trinity Series, he was shown punching Power Girl a 'few million times' in the face and actually affecting her, which is probably how he accomplishes this kind of thing: punch the other person a couple of billion times and thanks to timewtfery, have all the hits happen simultaneously.

Don't know about Professor Zoom.

[big_adventure]

Wrong Zoom. You're thinking of Zolomon Hunter. Professor Zoom is Thawne.

(The answer to all those questions for Zolomon is "Yes. Especially if it makes no sense.")

Ah, gracias amigo.

Well, for the professor, I have even less of an idea.

[Eternal Torment]

I remember that Professor Zoom, as of his latest appearance, could age people to dust (which also makes him stronger while somehow giving him their memories).

And as far as I recall, Asgardians don't have true-blue immortality, only extremely long lifespans.

[T51R]

This ends...in a quickie

[big_adventure]

And as far as I recall, Asgardians don't have true-blue immortality, only extremely long lifespans.

Welllllll, Asgardians in myth aren't true, greek-style immortals. And once in a while, in comics, they address the whole apples of Indun thing. However, for the most part, the Asgardians are called immortals, seem to BE immortals, don't seem to age to death, ever, etc. So I don't know that such a trick would work on one. Also, the ability to do that to a human doesn't hand wave doing it to even someone with a lifespan measured in thousands of years.

[Powerboy]

Zolomon has literally kicked Wonder Woman around the planet like a kid would kick a hacky-sack around the playground. Boot, she's in Egypt. Boot, she's in Greece. Etc. In the Trinity Series, he was shown punching Power Girl a 'few million times' in the face and actually affecting her, which is probably how he accomplishes this kind of thing: punch the other person a couple of billion times and thanks to timewtfery, have all the hits happen simultaneously.

Don't know about Professor Zoom.

Is the WW incident the one where she finally wins by kicking boulders in front of him that he runs into? This after it's being solidly established that she's either a statue or barely moving to him and should easily have just stopped or sidestepped the boulders?

[Sharpandpointies]

Is the WW incident the one where she finally wins by kicking boulders in front of him that he runs into? This after it's being solidly established that she's either a statue or barely moving to him and should easily have just stopped or sidestepped the boulders?

Something like that. She beats him in some incredibly silly way that shouldn't have worked, especially in the very same comic where it's shown he can basically run rings around her and kick her around the planet at will.

PIS at its finest.

[Eternal Torment]

Welllllll, Asgardians in myth aren't true, greek-style immortals. And once in a while, in comics, they address the whole apples of Indun thing. However, for the most part, the Asgardians are called immortals, seem to BE immortals, don't seem to age to death, ever, etc. So I don't know that such a trick would work on one. Also, the ability to do that to a human doesn't hand wave doing it to even someone with a lifespan measured in thousands of years.

Well, that's true. And I can't say that he could deage her to death, because he only fiddled with his own age in such a manner. He made himself younger and older faster than regular people could see, if I remember correctly.

So, he'll have to win conventionally by beating the tar out of Amora.

[Siriel]

Something like that. She beats him in some incredibly silly way that shouldn't have worked, especially in the very same comic where it's shown he can basically run rings around her and kick her around the planet at will.

PIS at its finest.

I fondly recall the time she caught him in her lasso, interrogated him and then when she went to actually capture him he went "Ha! No." and just phased out of it.

[HectorP]

Something like that. She beats him in some incredibly silly way that shouldn't have worked, especially in the very same comic where it's shown he can basically run rings around her and kick her around the planet at will.

PIS at its finest.

It's a scaled up Spider-Man vs. Quicksilver "fight".

[Powerboy]

It's a scaled up Spider-Man vs. Quicksilver "fight".

I vaguely remember a WW story where Wally West was so fast that she could barely perceive his movements and most people slower than her couldn't even perceive his presence while he in turn could tell she was barely moving while, to him, most people are statues. They didn't fight each other. In turn, Professor Zoom is supposed to be faster than Wally. Its basically what happens whenever you make a villain so powerful and then suddenly go, "Whoops. Wrote myself into a corner. Now I have to fudge or the hero/ heroine is going to get killed".