Is Geoff John's the quitessential Green Lantern writer.

[Zeeguy91]

Johns will be remembered as the Green Lantern writer because people forget and bury the past. He did some good things with Hal, but he is not a good writer by any means and he certainly is no John Broome. Johns wouldn't know a good plot if it hit him the back of the head.

The sad thing is now people only think of Hal Jordan as this idiot jet jock like from Top Gun when he was supposed to be like John Glenn. Darwyn Cooke did more with Hal Jordan than Johns ever did in with a lot less.

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[Shellhead]

Never mind, I looked him up. I've read The Prestige because of the movie, but I didn't care for it.

Wrong Chris Priest. The one who writes comics is best known for his run on Black Panther.

[Shellhead]

All Grant Morrison did was make Emma into a diamond, other than that I really didn't care for his run on X-Men. Morrison doesn't "play well with others" either, I never got the feeling his characters coexisted with the rest of the Marvel Universe. Now that was cool when he was given All-Star Superman as his own little universe, I liked that story a lot. But I didn't care for how he relaunched Action Comics.

I know some people worship grant Morrison, I am not one of them.

After seventeen years of Claremont and then the atrocities of the '90s, X-Men continuity had become utterly convoluted and inaccessible to new readers. And after Byrne left, Claremont got really heavy with the exposition, covering up artwork with unnecessary descriptions of what the artwork was showing. I would call that "not playing well with others."

Morrison provided a fresh entry point into the stagnant X-books, and also attempted to push mutants into a larger role within the Marvel Universe. He also introduced some interesting ideas involving Cronenberg-style body horror. There were some mistakes, too, like the way he wrote Magneto as a cheap imitation of himself. But Morrison can definitely "play well with others." There were a lot of weird changes at DC during his JLA run, and he rolled nicely with every one of them, including silliness involving that Electric Blue Superman. And Morrison collaborated closely with three other top DC writers on that amazing weekly 52 series a few years back.

[Desaad]

These 2 viewpoints are on the extreme end and Geoff Johns is definitely neither. Hal Jordan is not a boring and bland personality and Geoff isn't the one that turned Hal isn't something he wasn't.
Neither did Johns neglect to do anything interesting or vital with his title character. Yes he did take many previous elements and expanded them, his writing is also very much focued on nostalgia. But he did expanded on previous older elements and made them a definitive storyline. We can't just credit the original creators of the concept and say that people after them are all worthless. Thats like saying Deadpool is popular because of Rob Liefeld. He did take many old elements and reinvented them, made them modern and contemporary and defined the mythologies and chapters along the Green Lantern verse. Johns may not do anything the way Morrison or Miller did for Superman, Batman. But he definitely grew the franchise into what it is today.

So my point is no, Johns isn't the quintessential GL writer, GL owes what they have to Johns. One thing that he scored with me is that he writes very sympathetic villains and he turned lots and lots of GL villains into almost A listers.

To be clear, my point is that he did nothing significant with HAL JORDAN, not that he did nothing significant to the Green Lantern universe.

Some of his earlier work was characterful enough, and I was reasonably happy right through Sinestro Corps War. There was the throughline of fear, and Hal's struggle with everyone around him being fearful, the power of fear, etc. But that was quickly dropped, and we had nothing. I just don't feel like we got anything real or significant for "Hal" himself. Rather, we got a universe built up around him -- and shoddily, IMHO, because it all hinged on one thing. It's like if "Court of the Owls" went on for 9 years.

[Desaad]

First you complain that he just presented Hal as before then you praise Miller for "going back to the roots of the character"?

Miller brought Batman back to the pulpy roots of the character, filtered through the grim and gritty prism of the 80s. That it was a bit darker was in keeping with what came before, but the levels of it all, the deeply psychological take on the character? That was all new.

Also you've complained about the emotional spectrum Corps which was new territory for the Lanterns as it tied energy into emotions then claim he didn't explore new territory?

That's a universe thing, and while I complain that we only had ONE thing (the emotional spectrum), and that it was relatively simplistic for what Johns wanted to do with it, I would never disagree that he added that to the GLU, and that it's better for the addition. I just think that at a certain point it TURNED from being a nice little addition to the GLU into a hinderance, because Johns couldn't get past it, couldn't move beyond it. We're 8 years out now from when it was introduced and it's still driving every day story.

Most importantly to what we're discussing here, it has nothing to do with the progression of Hal Jordan's character.

[Desaad]

Never mind, I looked him up. I've read The Prestige because of the movie, but I didn't care for it.

Nah man, he's talking about James Owsley, who changed his name to Chris Priest. He wrote Action Comics Weekly that introduced 'Priest' (who I guess he named himself after...) and Lord Malvolio, some interesting stuff conceptually that was frankly poorly written, then he co-wrote the first couple of issues of Emerald Dawn before they brought in Keith Giffen when they wanted to go in a more Superheroy direction than what Owsley had in mind. He's the one who came up with "Hal drunk driver", though he later claimed in interviews that he had meant to show that Hal hadn't actually taken a sip.

As mentioned, he's best known for "Black Panther" over at Marvel, a masterful piece of work, he created Triumph (who you might remember from Morrison's JLA), wrote "The Ray" for a good bit, etc.

[PupsOfWar]

If by quintessential we mean "best-selling", sure.

If by quintessential we mean "best understands and illuminates the fundamental appeal of the character/concept", no.

[Mr. Holmes]

Nah man, he's talking about James Owsley, who changed his name to Chris Priest. He wrote Action Comics Weekly that introduced 'Priest' (who I guess he named himself after...) and Lord Malvolio, some interesting stuff conceptually that was frankly poorly written, then he co-wrote the first couple of issues of Emerald Dawn before they brought in Keith Giffen when they wanted to go in a more Superheroy direction than what Owsley had in mind. He's the one who came up with "Hal drunk driver", though he later claimed in interviews that he had meant to show that Hal hadn't actually taken a sip.

As mentioned, he's best known for "Black Panther" over at Marvel, a masterful piece of work, he created Triumph (who you might remember from Morrison's JLA), wrote "The Ray" for a good bit, etc.

Hahaha oh god. This is what happens when I'm running on no sleep.

[Samy]

The writer of Black Panther et al prefers to be referred to as plain "Priest" or "Christopher J. Priest", to avoid confusion with scifi writer Christopher Priest.