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    When you think about it, Jim Lee make the WildCATS, and Jim Lee disigned the new 52 costumes. It should fit. It should fit!

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    They are so similar because Jim Lee co-created that team pretty much immediately after his run on X-Men, and he pretty liberally pulled from them for inspiration.

    I think they would fit in the Wildstorm U better than anywhere else, honestly. It needs to be separated back away from the DCU. It just doesn't make sense to me to have them together. Every Wildstorm property is diminished by having to exist beside the DC properties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robotman4 View Post
    That's ridiculous to say they don't fit in the same universe. The DCU is huge. There's room for all sorts of characters. It makes the DCU stronger to have a wide variety of heroes and villains. Also, if the Wildcats are Marvel prototypes why should they be in the same universe as their doppelgangers?
    But their costumes and designs just scream Marvel to me.

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    Their characters are also more stylized after Marvel characters, which is why I think DC would find a better use for them since they are a type of character not usually found in DC and would be rendered redundant at Marvel.

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    Marvel has a lot of DC-like characters. Nova, Moon Knight, Squadren Supreme, countless Superman rip offs. when people say that the Wildcats dont belong in the DCU it reminds me of the old argument that DC isn't as "cool" as Marvel. Basically the marketing campaign Stan Lee started in the 60s.

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    Marvel already has the teens, outcasts, murderers, anti heroes and DC rip offs that Wildstorm offers. DC isn't properly 90s enough to use Wildstorm. So I expect they'll wallow in obscurity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vampiric_cannibal View Post
    Marvel already has the teens, outcasts, murderers, anti heroes and DC rip offs that Wildstorm offers. DC isn't properly 90s enough to use Wildstorm. So I expect they'll wallow in obscurity.
    Heh, the Jim Lee dissenters disagree.

    Besides, WildCATS became 100% 21st century material once Joe Casey got his hands on them.

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    Marvel has enough WildCATS-like characters of there own. WildCATS can totally work in the DCnU, DC just has to do something with them. So far, Stormwatch has been the best to me. I'm open to the Grifter, but they didn't do a great job with his book when they launched it.

    Move Grifter to Gotham or have him deal with the League of Shadows/Assassins. Do something to "do something" with the Wildstormverse to better integrate it into the DCnU.
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    Move Grifter to Gotham or have him deal with the League of Shadows/Assassins. Do something to "do something" with the Wildstormverse to better integrate it into the DCnU.
    It's a shame they didn't do a better job launching Team 7, as it's about to go into an arc bringing the WSU to the forefront and mixing it in deep with DC history.
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    DC is the right place for them as well as the rest of the Wildstorm characters.

    I think the irony and problem is that Marvel readers are more likely to try them out, whereas DC readers tend to not try out what they don't recognize which is a shame. It seems to be a newer phenomenon though, since the Fawcett and Charlton properties did not have that problem. For some reason Milestone and Wildstorm are quickly and unfairly dismissed as budget DC properties. I think the key to DC readers embracing those characters is to not put so much emphasis on shoehorning them into DC "continuity". They need to be more organic and natural to the approach. Every attempt at the inclusion of Static has been successful because it didn't feel invasive. Stormwatch seems to be as well and its ties to Demon Knights does feel natural. The revamp of Team 7...Team 7 should have been the exact Team 7 from the past...not this sortof hybrid that was all DC characters plus the only 2-3 original Team 7 members that had direct ties to other Wildstorm properties. I think the Teen Titans N.O.W.H.E.R.E./Cadmus Ravagers/Ravers/Gen-13 experiment is hit or miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk_Is View Post
    That've all utterly failed. Well, I do think Gladiator is cool.
    Well, I liked the Hyperion of Supreme Power. Have you read it? It's basically Justice League MAX written by JMS (when he was loved by readers) and drawn by Gary Frank(!).

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    Yeah, I agree. It takes "special" care to launch characters that are new to a or from combined universes into one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandaemonium View Post
    DC is the right place for them as well as the rest of the Wildstorm characters.

    I think the irony and problem is that Marvel readers are more likely to try them out, whereas DC readers tend to not try out what they don't recognize which is a shame. It seems to be a newer phenomenon though, since the Fawcett and Charlton properties did not have that problem. For some reason Milestone and Wildstorm are quickly and unfairly dismissed as budget DC properties. I think the key to DC readers embracing those characters is to not put so much emphasis on shoehorning them into DC "continuity". They need to be more organic and natural to the approach. Every attempt at the inclusion of Static has been successful because it didn't feel invasive. Stormwatch seems to be as well and its ties to Demon Knights does feel natural. The revamp of Team 7...Team 7 should have been the exact Team 7 from the past...not this sortof hybrid that was all DC characters plus the only 2-3 original Team 7 members that had direct ties to other Wildstorm properties. I think the Teen Titans N.O.W.H.E.R.E./Cadmus Ravagers/Ravers/Gen-13 experiment is hit or miss.
    Personally speaking (not trying to make a generalization), I welcome the idea of the DCU and Wildstorm universes being a combined into the DCnU. It's just how they do it that matters and how they blend the concepts that make sense as a whole.

    I think the quickness of the relaunch of the DCnU (and probably priorities–you can only do so much at one time) didn't allow for a ton of planning time to map out the conjoined histories.
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    I think many people are living in the 90's.If this people where talking about pre reboot DC then yes then Wildcats don't fit but Nu52 the characters fit perfectly in this DC.

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    I think its a shame DC isn't really grabbing at the chance to use the WildCats, when I saw Zealot in Deathstroke, I was thinking "Whoa....... this could work!!!", but nothing happened

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