Also, I can't see Marvel "waiting" with Ultimate if it ended. Marvel has shown in recent years that they have no patience when it comes to relaunches. Just look how quickly they relaunched Uncanny X-men and Uncanny X-Force. The Ultimate brand is still viable, but I think it needs an overhaul. And at this point, a reboot is the only way for it to become even close to what it once was. The success of Earth 2 shows that a side-universe title can work. And Ultimate's early success showed that they can breed new ideas. Ultimate really hasn't done anything close to what it was initially set up to do in years. And I'm still convinced that it will end the day Brian Bendis leaves Ultimate Spider-Man, whenever that may be. I don't think that'll happen this year or even next year for that matter. But it will happen eventually and when that time comes, I think Ultimate will be in need of a reboot to become viable again.
Writers before artists.
Artists before concepts.
Concepts before characters.
I prefer Ultimate Spider-man (peter) to it's 616 version. But i think it' would be hard to pull off a transfer. ALL of spidey 616 (friends and foes) would have to transfer out and all of UU would have to transfer in. i'd like it, but not practical
I stopped reading USM after the LOEB WAVE. Disgusting stuff.Question: If you guys have bailed on the Ultimates U, when and why? I bailed a little after DoSM.
The whole line is pretty redundant now, especially after the success of MARVEL NOW. I'd just put the UU out of its misery already. Maybe launch a new "sleek" and "modern" MU down the road.
For this reason, I think a mere time travel story to that resets Ultimate to a certain point won't work. Just setting the Ultimate universe back to a certain point before a certain era isn't enough. It needs a Flashpoint style reboot or some kind of cosmic threat, like the Phoenix Force or Galactus, to reset things to a point where it can start fresh. I don't mean to say that all the current elements have to be destroyed. I think Miles should remain in some form. So should characters like Monica Chang. But they shouldn't be mere replacements. They should have different roles. Now I don't think anything like this will happen soon. It all depends on when Bendis quits Ultimate Spider-Man. Until that happens, Marvel will stick out the current Ultimate status quo for as long as they can get away with it.
I think both the regular Marvel U. and the Ultimate Marvel U. are both so messed up that they both should just end. Be brave and reboot from scratch, something like DC did in the 60's with the new Flash and Green Lantern and Justice League of America, not like the semi-reboot/Wildstorm make-over of the New 52. And in that reboot, there should be less inter-connected continuity with each title setting its own tone with its own take on the overall universe. No more "must-buy!" events and line-wide cross-overs.
The Marvel Universe ended for me with Civil War and the Ultimate U. ended with DoSM. Though every now and then I pick up a book or two to see if things have improved, for the most part they have not and I have no real interest in anything Marvel anymore. I am the "lapsed" reader they say they want to lure back.
Image has some pretty awesome books.
I've been thinking about this thread a lot lately.
I'd be down for one of three things. unfortunately not one will ever happen.
1 - Have Marvel close down both universes and start a new one, kind of with the same original ideas as the UU in its inception.
2- Have both 616 and UU merge and form a new Marvel Universe (it would be cool to have an event seen from both sides - UU and 616 - that lead to the merge). Keep the good things about 616 and add the better things from UU (i.e. Keep 616 Iron Man, replace 616 Scarlet Spider with Miles Morales). I have to be honest and say I'd like to have Ultimate Peter to come back and replace 616 Peter. I believe he is the best version.
This of course raises a question about overlapping supporting cast. Let's say Ultimate Peter replaces 616. Move all his supporting cast and replace the 616 version.
3- Do number 2 but as a digital comic only. Without erasing 616 or UU. Just as an experiment. If it succeeded, move to number 2.
All I know is, the UU will shut down eventually and it'd be a shame to lose such great characters
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