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    Motherfucker can make anything look good.
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    I have some hope that Millar doing a legit story here, but who knows. Even Wanted had a cool concept, but was ultimately stupid and pandering to 13 year olds in execution.

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    I don't like Mark Millar's stuff.Well, that's not quite right - I thought that his work on the "Ultimates" was really good (which was the first time I encountered Millar) but eventually it veered off into vicious misogyny and the idolization of truly vile characters. So, I have no interest in reading Millar's work.

    On the other hand, I really like the art here. So I may get the first few issues. But if it becomes what he's done in the past, I'll drop it immediately. Comics are way too expensive to shell out money for hateful crap (if that's what it becomes)

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    Only one question: Does Image make Absolute editions, the way DC does? If not, they'd better start gearing up to do so, because this story will DEMAND one!

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    Wow, that's some bitchin' art. Quiteman's really channelling Moebius more so than ever. Textless version, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenos View Post
    Only one question: Does Image make Absolute editions, the way DC does? If not, they'd better start gearing up to do so, because this story will DEMAND one!
    Nothing to do with Image. Its the creators decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightningBug View Post
    I've really been looking forward to this, and this preview art looks like it has been well worth the wait. Great to see the band back together years after their "Authority" run. I'm a little disappointed with the title change. I'm sure they decided that "Legacy" fit the story better than "Children", but "Jupiter's Children" just sounds more awesome. Either way, it is a small complaint, because they could call this book "Jupiter's Taint" and I'd still buy it for that artwork.
    It was changed for Trademark reasons. There is a band called Jupiter's Child and the patent office thought that was too close to Jupiter's Children. The patent office also felt music bands and comic books were too close in terms of good's and services to all such similar names.

    Bogus. Trademarks registrations are such a crap shoot because you are held to the opinion of your examiner. I guess Millar and Quitley felt it was easier (cheaper) to change the name then appeal the decision.

    http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/12/...legacy-anyway/
    Grr. Argh.

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    This is the book I look forward to the most this year.

    Frank Quitely's art is almost always a treat to behold, and this is no exception. The guy is truely blessed! The style, the motions, the expressions, the detail, everything is amazing. And the bi-monthly schedule, along with all the time he had to draw in advance of the book's release, will hopefully make it easier on him to keep the quality high and not have to go over the deadlines' restrictions.

    And I am really excited to have Mark Millar back to writing some super-hero stories once again. He knows how to make such material be exciting. And the fact that he is trying to create an entire fictional universe in this book while telling a proper super-hero story, gives me hope that this will be amazing. He knows how to handle other people's characters and do short bursts of creator-owned material. Now it's time to see if he can handle some long-form story-telling.

    I don't know where all the hate for his writing comes from though. Millar created the Ultimates, an exemplary book of how to write super-hero team books with a modern feel. And the best the Avengers have ever been recently other than Hickman's run. It's also the basis of Marvel's cinematic success. Robert Downey Jr's much critically acclaimed Iron Man is not his, it's Millar's, in case people have forgotten. Kick-Ass is an ingenious portayal of what the fate of a powerless Clark Kent would be in the real world. Superior reads like a modern super-hero story while retaining the heart of such tales from decades ago. He has had his blunders;for the life of me I don't understand why he chose to do Kick-Ass 2, it seems aimless, just that. Is it the swearing or the violence? Because if it is that then it's not him that is at fault but the readers who can't look past such things to what the stories are about. Newsflash, people swear in real life, it's only in comics that they don't due to most publishers thinking that readers are juvenille enough to get offended by it; which weirdly seems to be the case it seems= Ah mah gud! He said the "F" word!. And violence is what happens when two guys with super-powers start hitting each other. If you can't stomach it just don't read it, it doesn't make Millar's writing any less credible, just like it doesn't make Kirkman's, Ellis',etc writing any less credible as well. I really wonder what people that get offended by the bits of violence in some of Millar's work would think if they read european comics where swearing, violence and nudity are seen as legitimate story-telling tools, not tabboos. Are american comic-book fans really so backward?

    Anyway, I can't wait until this gets released. Millar and Quitely building a super-hero world of their own with next to no restrictions. This has tremendous potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drithien View Post
    I don't know where all the hate for his writing comes from though.
    Really? Wanted, Kick-Ass, Nemesis, etc.? Millar hate has come from two things. One, it's that we know Millar is capable of doing something refined and smart, but instead chooses to rely on stupid, shallow "shock value" and appeals to 13 year olds. Two, it's that it's clear everything he's done recently is to get into Hollywood.

    Millar created the Ultimates, an exemplary book of how to write super-hero team books with a modern feel. And the best the Avengers have ever been recently other than Hickman's run. It's also the basis of Marvel's cinematic success. Robert Downey Jr's much critically acclaimed Iron Man is not his, it's Millar's, in case people have forgotten.
    I think Ultimates is a fine book, but it doesn't really hold up today, and it's not really as ground breaking as you're saying. It brings on a really stylish and contemporary aesthetic - I'll give it that - but it has been done much better. Ultimates was inspired by what Warren Ellis was doing in Stormwatch and Authority, and that guy knows how to make superheroes stylish and intelligent effortlessly. Millar takes all that, but takes out the cleverness, bringing on something that's really adolescent.

    Also I think you're overrating how much of it influenced the movie. The movie does draw from Ultimates, but it's also largely drawing from classic Avengers, like Busiek and Perez's run.

    I'd get banned if I gave my opinion on Kick-Ass so I'll leave it at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark-Flux View Post
    Nothing to do with Image. Its the creators decision.
    So if the creators consented, DC could make an Absolute of this?

    And this has caught my eye. I hope it's akin to Moore's scrapped "Twilight of the Superheroes" as I have been lead to believe.
    There is a God. And he hates us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Holmes View Post
    Really? Wanted, Kick-Ass, Nemesis, etc.? Millar hate has come from two things. One, it's that we know Millar is capable of doing something refined and smart, but instead chooses to rely on stupid, shallow "shock value" and appeals to 13 year olds. Two, it's that it's clear everything he's done recently is to get into Hollywood.
    Don't forget The Unfunnies. NEVER forget The Unfunnies. One of the main reasons why I never completely trust any of his creator own projects right off the back. I also think this quote of his says it all as well:

    My wife got about six pages into it when she was reading it in the bath the other night and she just threw it at me. She said it was the most horrible thing she'd ever read in her life and she didn't want to think this sort of shit even went on in my head. I tried to explain that the crow was sucking cock for a REASON, but it actually does sound kind of creepy saying it out loud.
    So yeah, I'm not particularly excited about this comic, but I'm willing to give it an issue to impress despite everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Holmes View Post
    Really? Wanted, Kick-Ass, Nemesis, etc.? Millar hate has come from two things. One, it's that we know Millar is capable of doing something refined and smart, but instead chooses to rely on stupid, shallow "shock value" and appeals to 13 year olds. Two, it's that it's clear everything he's done recently is to get into Hollywood.

    I think Ultimates is a fine book, but it doesn't really hold up today, and it's not really as ground breaking as you're saying. It brings on a really stylish and contemporary aesthetic - I'll give it that - but it has been done much better. Ultimates was inspired by what Warren Ellis was doing in Stormwatch and Authority, and that guy knows how to make superheroes stylish and intelligent effortlessly. Millar takes all that, but takes out the cleverness, bringing on something that's really adolescent.

    Also I think you're overrating how much of it influenced the movie. The movie does draw from Ultimates, but it's also largely drawing from classic Avengers, like Busiek and Perez's run.

    I'd get banned if I gave my opinion on Kick-Ass so I'll leave it at that.
    in complete agreement with the above. millar often comes up with very interesting premises and ideas, but consistently ends up relying on shock tactics. kick ass, nemesis are fine examples.

    i'll give this a chance and pick it up because 1) its $2.99, and 2) looking at the lettered preview, it doesnt look like the usual millar unnecessary rape or expletives stuff. i hope he finally writes something smart and provocative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Holmes View Post
    I'd get banned if I gave my opinion on Kick-Ass so I'll leave it at that.
    We can sum that series and Millar's writing all in this page

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny P. Sartre View Post
    We can sum that series and Millar's writing all in this page

    And now you know why I am completely nervous to see this film. I liked the first, but only because it got rid of a lot of the problems the comic had. Please, let this scene not exist in this movie (along with so many others).

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