Peter David's All-New, All-Different X-Factor: From The Beginning

[AgentFelix]

Is it worth anything on ebay? I bought a box when these came out, managed to complete one set.

sadly no, i think the complete set goes for like $10-$20 US. I checked recently after finding the binder in a move.

[.A²]

Sorry that momentum has come to something of a halt in this thread. Things ought to pick up after the next issue.

[Nomads1]

Ah, I was wondering where this thread was.

Maybe a little late, but I'm still thinking (from time to time) about Larsen's X-Factor.

Nowadays the problem would be solved quickly. We would probably have 2 X-Factor teams, one by Peter David (adjectiveless), and one by Larsen (Uncanny) lol

But the point is... oh well, just look at this:
Image Comics - McFarlane ("anti-x-men"), Liefeld (X-Force), Lee (X-Men), Portacio (Uncanny X-Men), Silvestri (Cyber Force was initially proposed as x-men spin-off), Valentino (neutral). I don't think that anyone will disagree that the first Image books were X-Men rip-offs.

So Larsen on X-Factor would make sense, cause most of Image comics were succesfull, despite their actual quality. It would be more profitable to give X-Factor to a huge name artist like Larsen, than a relatively unknown (and underrated) guy like Stroman at the time. Yet, instead they had chosen Stroman. And people say that 90s comics were pure marketing and gimmick trash.

Of course, it all ended best for everyone, we got one of the best comics, and Larsen was doing his own thing. But there is always the "what if" scenario. Well, IF Marvel had chosen Larsen, they would probably sell bigger amount of X-Factor, but Larsen would leave anyway. And then probably Peter David would get his gig anyway too. But there would be one big profit for x-fans, and huge loss for Larsen: HORRIDUS!

as a sidenote, about the Cyber Force; they sucked, and I think that they would be better developed in Marvel, but at least they belong in 100% to Silvestri, they're his property. so it's better that way I guess...

I guess for Larsen, the main Spider-Man title was a much jucier gig than a second tier X-Men spin-off title. I really don't see him passing on that just to do X-Factor, and I guess, ultimately, Marvel thought the same way.

Peace

[chakal]

I guess for Larsen, the main Spider-Man title was a much jucier gig than a second tier X-Men spin-off title. I really don't see him passing on that just to do X-Factor, and I guess, ultimately, Marvel thought the same way.

I don't disagree, but notice that Larsen was a little butthurt over this situation. In Spider-Man there was the character called Cyborg X who was heavily hinted to be actually Crimson Commando. The design of Cyborg X looks similar to Crimson's re-design and later Superpatriot. The whole Freak Force is a jab at X-Factor. Let's check the line-up:
Barbaric –> Guido
Dart –> Quicksilver
Ricochet –> Wolfsbane
Mighty Man –> Havok
Rapture –> Polaris
Superpatriot –> Crimson Commando
Horridus –> rejected character.

It's possible that marvel rejected the idea, just like it's possible that Larsen didn't want to do x-factor, and preferred to transfer his ideas over to Image. Fortunately it all worked for the best, because I can't imagine other X-Factor than PAD's. The only reason that it bugs me, it's because it looks like a wasted gimmick opportunity which Marvel is famous for. I mean, instead of making it a flashy, extreeeme book appealing to kids, they made it more ambitious, intelligent and serious book. Weird.

[chakal]

We failed. X-Factor will end and you know it. Let's start funeral arrangements.
I'll start

Thank you PAD for giving us a quality book monthly, a book that required basic intelligence
and good taste in comic books.
I will be grateful, and I'm happy that you lasted over 100 issues of new old X-factor.
I remember the day when I heard about the relaunch of X-factor.
I read the name of the writer. I googled. My reaction "oh, it's the guy who wrote my favorite x-factor issues"
I am happy.
It is an accomplishment. It's more than we could ask for. And it's more than we should expect.

Thank you and I hope that we'll "meet" in another comic book soon!
Thanks again.

[AgentFelix]

Sorry that momentum has come to something of a halt in this thread. Things ought to pick up after the next issue.

I'm gonna be the a-hole that prods you with a stick. New entries? :)

[.A²]

I'm gonna be the a-hole that prods you with a stick. New entries? :)

It's not me that we're waiting for. I'm hesitant to bypass someone else's review.