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    Quote Originally Posted by the Sun God View Post
    Am I the only one who likes the original version in which the Kryptonians have powers even on their home planet?
    Actually, I like the idea that yellow sun radiation gives the senses, flying, and mental capabilities, but because of the Gravity, Kryptonians should be almost Spiderman strong and durable under a red sun without Kryptons gravity... Pure fanboyism there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by adkal View Post
    Only if the powers were AC1 level, or thereabouts. Otherwise, the reason the yellow sun element was brought into play becomes a necessity again.
    They could die because of the "green plague". If I'm not mistaken the Martians have the same Superman's power level, and they die out because of fire, their weakness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Sun God View Post
    They could die because of the "green plague". If I'm not mistaken the Martians have the same Superman's power level, and they die out because of fire, their weakness.
    Martian durability isn't like Kryptonian durability, their shapeshifting tends to work against them in that regard - they also had a secondary weakness (often overlooked) which was the resonant death cries (on the psychic plane).

    Further, if they're at that level of power then Jor wouldn't need the rocket and he, Lara and others would be able to leave Krypton under their own power - Superman has countered the pull of black holes so Krypton's gravitational pull would be negligible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote2010 View Post
    Actually, I like the idea that yellow sun radiation gives the senses, flying, and mental capabilities, but because of the Gravity, Kryptonians should be almost Spiderman strong and durable under a red sun without Kryptons gravity... Pure fanboyism there...
    If I remember correctly it was used a similar explanation in the late Golden Age, early Silver Age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote2010 View Post
    Actually, I like the idea that yellow sun radiation gives the senses, flying, and mental capabilities, but because of the Gravity, Kryptonians should be almost Spiderman strong and durable under a red sun without Kryptons gravity... Pure fanboyism there...
    I'm of the 'a base-level Kryptonian is at AC1 level (at the very least)' approach. The only time they should be 'human' is if/when someone like Mxy made them so (ala Krisis of the Krimson Kryptonite) (or the ol' Molecule Chamber )

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    Quote Originally Posted by adkal View Post
    Martian durability isn't like Kryptonian durability, their shapeshifting tends to work against them in that regard - they also had a secondary weakness (often overlooked) which was the resonant death cries (on the psychic plane).

    Further, if they're at that level of power then Jor wouldn't need the rocket and he, Lara and others would be able to leave Krypton under their own power - Superman has countered the pull of black holes so Krypton's gravitational pull would be negligible.
    Ok, they may weaken slowly (months maybe) because of the "plague" or any other reason. It's science fiction, you can find a justification for all. We're talking about a race in which almost 100.000 were killed by Gen. Lane, a mere human.

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    Yeah, a planet of bona fide Superman wouldn't really work. GA level, maybe, but I'm fine with the human in all but name and solar absorption ability physiology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Sun God View Post
    Ok, they may weaken slowly (months maybe) because of the "plague" or any other reason. It's science fiction, you can find a justification for all. We're talking about a race in which almost 100.000 were killed by Gen. Lane, a mere human.
    Ah, but that's an exaggeration as he didn't do it by himself

    Also, the Kandorians had barely had a year's worth of (filtered) solar absorption, so although their powers were 'active' they wouldn't have the endurance of Superman (not enough reserves) away from Sol - which is what should have, in my opinion, been brought into play when the sun was turned 'red' rather than the 'on-off switch' that was employed.

    Zod, however, would have remained powered for longer because of the Sol-treatments he was undergoing after the assassination attempt. Oh, and the 'plague' was also supposed to be a factor in WONK but they dropped the ball on that, too.

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    The idea that I suggested would make it easier to justify why Superman develops his powers in 20 years while a normal Kryptonian immediately after reaching the earth. Of course, my idea would create more narrative gaps as Adkal noted.
    We'll see how the matter will be handled in Man Of Steel with Zod and Faora.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adkal View Post
    Further, if they're at that level of power then Jor wouldn't need the rocket and he, Lara and others would be able to leave Krypton under their own power - Superman has countered the pull of black holes so Krypton's gravitational pull would be negligible.
    Right, which is why Jor-L and Lara could only do super leaps, which was an eighth of a mile in distance.

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    Which is like over 600 feet!

    How do fans feel when Foes don't attack with Red Sun radiation. That's the only thing that takes me out of the moment now. I figure they aren't trying if they don't hit him with red sun radiation. By now that's what they should lead with.

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