Meanwhile, in Superman #16...

[slvn]

The only damages were the lives/homes people had built up over years as a family, and thats because Batman was savy enough to get the civilians out of the area before Diana and Hal killed someone with their thoughtless rampage.

I just looked at that issue again, and I don't see any houses getting destroyed. The street gets torn up, and in one scene there's some rubble that COULD be a house--but it could just as easily be a garage, or just ruble from the torn-up pavement. Does anyone in the book mention houses being destroyed?

I understand that you might be extrapolating that such a fight on a residential street must have destroyed houses; you can make that assumption if you want. I just want to know if I'm missing a place where it's actually shown or described in the book.

Regardless of whether houses were destroyed or not, I agree with you that having that fight wasn't the kind of wise action we expect from Diana, but I think of it as an aberration born of grief and guilty feelings and rage, not purely inconsistent writing. (I say "not purely" because I do think that slashing GL with the sword took it over the top.)

Something that's consistent between the two books is that concern for others can make her impulsive. She doesn't react as impulsively to petty insults against herself, whether it's Hal hitting on her in an early issue or Orion slapping her on the butt.

[misslane38]

Its certainly temporary, in the sense of rarely anything in comics lasting forever. But there's no way they end it and get back to Superman and Lois all in time for the movie. The relationship has connections to a story Johns wants to tell, one that likely won't even have truly begun by the time MOS comes out. So there's not going to be any cross-promotion between the movie and the comic in that sense. Hell even when the SM/WW relationship does end, I still highly doubt they return to any sort of steady Lois and Clark relationship. That's not going to happen again in the comics for a really long time.

I agree that Clark and Lois as a couple won't happen in the comics to coincide with the movie (unfortunately). That said, Scott Snyder's new book sounds like it'll have some quality Superman/Lois in what he says is meant to be a definitive take on the character. Also, I don't agree with your certainty that it's going to be ages before Clark and Lois get back together. However, if by "steady" you mean engaged or married, then yes, that would take more time.

[Sacred Knight]

Well, you never know with Snyder. He throws around the word definitive like mad for pretty much everything these days. Over in Batman everything he touches he claims to be a definitive take, with it being widely debated whether he ever delivers on such claims (With Batman I think he most definitely has not) so I'd be wary taking him at face value on the how he talks up things. I'm not saying despair, just be cautious. We could get an excellent Lois Lane, or we could get something shallow and pedantic.

And Yup, that's what I meant when I mentioned steady. An exclusive relationship like before, engagement, marriage, no. Could I see them going on dates every now and again or something? In situations where they're both single, sure.

[the Sun God]

Its certainly temporary, in the sense of rarely anything in comics lasting forever. But there's no way they end it and get back to Superman and Lois all in time for the movie. The relationship has connections to a story Johns wants to tell, one that likely won't even have truly begun by the time MOS comes out. So there's not going to be any cross-promotion between the movie and the comic in that sense. Hell even when the SM/WW relationship does end, I still highly doubt they return to any sort of steady Lois and Clark relationship. That's not going to happen again in the comics for a really long time.

Maybe this time will be the movies to align with the comics and we'll see Sm and WW together as a couple in the next Justice League movie.

[misslane38]

Well, you never know with Snyder. He throws around the word definitive like mad for pretty much everything these days.

It doesn't matter if it actually ends up being "definitive" as long as that's what shaping Snyder's work on the title.

I'm not saying despair, just be cautious.

I'm not despairing. Thanks for your concern.

We could get an excellent Lois Lane, or we could get something shallow and pedantic.

Sure, but whether it's a "shallow and pedantic" take will not change the fact that Snyder's book intends to feature Lois and her unique relationship with Clark/Superman with the intent to generate synergy between the comics and Man of Steel.

And Yup, that's what I meant when I mentioned steady. An exclusive relationship like before, engagement, marriage, no. Could I see them going on dates every now and again or something? In situations where they're both single, sure.

It took five years for Lois and Clark to start dating and another five years for them to get married in Post-Crisis continuity, so I expect for the relationship to take some time to develop (i.e. 5-10 years). What I don't expect is for their relationship to remain unexplored indefinitely. The "really long time" you mentioned before probably isn't going to be as long as you think.

Maybe this time will be the movies to align with the comics and we'll see Sm and WW together as a couple in the next Justice League movie.

The Justice League movie that's not happening for the foreseeable future? By the time a Justice League film is ready to be released, the Superman and Wonder Woman relationship will likely be a relic of the past.

[the Sun God]

The Justice League movie that's not happening for the foreseeable future? By the time a Justice League film is ready to be released, the Superman and Wonder Woman relationship will likely be a relic of the past.

Yes, that movie.
To me, their relationship in the movies is unlikely especially because JL and MOS are two different franchises. About the comics... I think, knowing Johns, he has at least a 5-year plan for the couple and the JL series in general, after that the future of the SM/WW pairing will depend on other authors and the readers response.

[Sacred Knight]

Yeah, I'm thinking about about the same timeline. 2 more years at least, because I'm doubting the story involving this relationship, as it pertains to the time travel that was hinted at, is going to have much if anything at all to do with Trinity War. I'm thinking that is its own separate event, and if they wait 2 years between events like they did between the introduction of the New 52 and Trinity War, then the next major DC event, which I theorize is this What-Do-Superman-And-Wonder Woman-Do-In-The-Future story, would be in 2015.

[the Sun God]

Yeah, I'm thinking about about the same timeline. 2 more years at least, because I'm doubting the story involving this relationship, as it pertains to the time travel that was hinted at, is going to have much if anything at all to do with Trinity War. I'm thinking that is its own separate event, and if they wait 2 years between events like they did between the introduction of the New 52 and Trinity War, then the next major DC event, which I theorize is this What-Do-Superman-And-Wonder Woman-Do-In-The-Future story, would be in 2015.

Yes, you're probably right to think that Trinity War and the Booster Gold's time travel story are two separete storyline. And, considering that Amanda Waller puts together her own team also because her concerns about the couple, the Waller's JLA would make little sense if Sm/WW break-up soon.