Page 4 of 17 FirstFirst 1234567814 ... LastLast
Results 46 to 60 of 246
  1. #46
    Somebody's Ceiling Time_to_Zap's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Really old city
    Posts
    6,317

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by darknessatnoon View Post
    Then you're using it as a cosmetic and it's not in bad faith. But, guys, really, the "nu-masculinists" on this forum are the bullies.


    Gay teens commit suicide at astronomically higher rates than straight ones. Sociological fact. The X-Men are about realism and removing the blinders.
    And women get breast cancer at astronomically higher rates than men, but hardly any of the female X-Men have ever dealt with that.
    "Before you save anyone else, you have to save yourself."
    ~Gregory Maguire

  2. #47
    BANNED
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    The Hindu Kush
    Posts
    59,851

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Time_to_Zap View Post
    And women get breast cancer at astronomically higher rates than men, but hardly any of the female X-Men have ever dealt with that.
    Well, let's give it to Psylocke. Revanche already got it, so she's predisposed.

  3. #48
    Elder Member Hi-Fi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    15,139

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by darknessatnoon View Post
    People who self-identify as masculine are screaming queens with deep delusions of "ordinariness." It's a desire to be ordinary that animates their purchase of baseball caps and their stubble growth, not a desire to be "masculine." And don't even engage with the bullshit "equal representation" argument. It's a strawman.
    Are you saying gay people are not/ can't be ordinary?

  4. #49
    Celeste was Right! ohsnapulon5000's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Posts
    6,442

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by darknessatnoon View Post
    Then you're using it as a cosmetic and it's not in bad faith. But, guys, really, the "nu-masculinists" on this forum are the bullies.
    NuMasculism has zero to do with cosmetics and everything to do with owning up to your part in society and helping out your feminist sister. It isn't about wearing ballcaps at "Gym's" on Vine.
    "Generation X was the one, pristine, x-team..."- darknessatnoon
    My X-Men Sketch Book

  5. #50
    BANNED
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    The Hindu Kush
    Posts
    59,851

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Hi-Fi View Post
    Are you saying gay people are not/ can't be ordinary?
    Ordinariness is delusional and a fantasy of complicity. And a fairly self-harming one to have. Of course gay people can have that fantasy. A lot of the gays in this thread have it.

  6. #51
    BANNED
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Brooklyn
    Posts
    8,089

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by darknessatnoon View Post
    Ordinariness is delusional and a fantasy of complicity. And a fairly self-harming one to have. Of course gay people can have that fantasy. A lot of the gays in this thread have it.
    Ordinariness is subjective. A lot of the gays in this thread think they're ordinary gays and that some other gays aren't.

  7. #52
    BANNED
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    The Hindu Kush
    Posts
    59,851

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Quinnhop View Post
    Ordinariness is subjective. A lot of the gays in this thread think they're ordinary gays and that some other gays aren't.
    No, it's not "all relative." Ordinariness is structured by norms.

  8. #53

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Time_to_Zap View Post
    It's called disguised, dimwitted discrimination. Killing off a gay character so his teammates can "learn a lesson?" Using the death of a barely-developed character and defining him by his sexuality in order to further the character growth of his heterosexual teammates who already have had infinite more development than him? That's BS.
    It's pretty old doing that to "freaks" or minorities. I thought it was tired when I was 9.

  9. #54
    Elder Member Hi-Fi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    15,139

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by darknessatnoon View Post
    Ordinariness is delusional and a fantasy of complicity. And a fairly self-harming one to have. Of course gay people can have that fantasy. A lot of the gays in this thread have it.
    Understood. So let's get some delusional homos in the comics ASAP. Let's have all kinds of homos, please!

  10. #55
    Elder Member Aguja's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Vancouver
    Posts
    17,660

    Default

    I just don't think Marvel has a lot of effeminte or flamboyant gay characters so that is the issue I don't understand. Most of them are background I admit but which ones do people think are stereotypical?

  11. #56
    Somebody's Ceiling Time_to_Zap's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Really old city
    Posts
    6,317

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinRedmond View Post
    It's pretty old doing that to "freaks" or minorities. I thought it was tired when I was 9.
    Seriously.

    Minorities aren't living lessons for straight white men.
    "Before you save anyone else, you have to save yourself."
    ~Gregory Maguire

  12. #57
    Senior Member Drax1981's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Rockville, Maryland
    Posts
    2,074

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by darknessatnoon View Post
    Effeminate people are allowed to like sports. Sorry to break it to all the losers who spend hours at sports bars, but liking sports doesn't make you "masculine."
    Outside of your weird hatred for people who frequent sports bars, what's your point?
    Is it really that terrible for you that someone would like to see more bears in comics?

  13. #58
    BANNED
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    8,244

    Default

    I don't care about being represented. I guess that means i'm a self-hating homo.

  14. #59
    BANNED
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Brooklyn
    Posts
    8,089

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by darknessatnoon View Post
    No, it's not "all relative." Ordinariness is structured by norms.
    And all cultures have their own norms. Ordinariness is always contextual. You're speaking about the most general form of ordinariness but speaking from your own definition of gay ordinariness. That's two cultures, two forms of ordinariness. Why? Two different norms.

    Stop playing around.

  15. #60
    Senior Member Drax1981's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Rockville, Maryland
    Posts
    2,074

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Optic Rage View Post
    I don't care about being represented. I guess that means i'm a self-hating homo.
    I'd knock that off. I heard that was a clear sign of delusion and will lead to self-destructive fantasies.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •