So... THAT didn't happen in SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN #2. Were you right or wrong?

[Mister Mets]

Don't know why people were making such a big deal out of it in the first place. The cover just shows him kissing MJ, don't know why everyone immediately assumed rape expecially since we all know whats on the cover of comics usually has nothing to do with what happens in the issue.

I enjoyed the issue Mr. Slott, it had me cracking up at some parts like the date scenes. Keep up the good work.

One of the arguments often presented in the old thread was that if Spock slept with Mary Jane, it would constitute rape, as she would not be willing to consent, since she didn't know that he was really Peter Parker. That got into a side argument about whether it would be rape (Some jurisdictions, although not New York, consider it to be rape if one person impersonates another in order to sleep with a member of the other's social circle.)

One argument was that the specter of Spock seducing Mary Jane should not be raised, because some people would interpret it as rape, and there is no place for the hint of that in a Spider-Man comic. I think the problem is that it's crippling for fiction if writers aren't allowed to hint at the possibility that specific bad things can happen.

There also seemed to be concern trolling involved in the old thread, with at least one very active former postere who didn't like the current Spider-Man comics pretending that this one possibility was the one thing that bothered him.

[Number_5]

I never thought there would be "rape" or anything. Just popped in to ask if you, or whoever captioned that picture in the link, knows what "consensus" means.

Also, Mr. Slott, please have less of ghostly Peter in the future. He shouldn't dominate the book, it's called Superior Spider-Man, not Trapped-in-his-own-body-with-no-control-omg-the-HORROR-ewwww Spider-Man. More Spock, less annoying Peter commentary, please.

[darknessatnoon]

I didn't think it would happen. This isn't the X-Men.

[Kevinroc]

I voted that it wouldn't happen. It's a public poll so you can check. I've nothing to be embarrassed about regarding this issue.

Edit: I actually did predict that Otto had access to Peter and MJ sexy-times in a jovial manner.

[XxSnakeProxX]

Hilarious issue. I didn't expect anything bad would happen. Loved how Otto felt guilt in the end and made a choice in 1 issue that Peter has trouble with constantly.

[ViewtifulJC]

I didn't think that wasn't going to be any rape, just the attempted kind. You're smarter than going into that territory. At most, you'd turn a potential rapist preying on/masturbating to MJ into a series of rom-com hijinks, and here we are!

[ShaggyB]

I didn't think that wasn't going to be any rape, just the attempted kind. You're smarter than going into that territory. At most, you'd turn a potential rapist preying on/masturbating to MJ into a series of rom-com hijinks, and here we are!

where was masturbation in that book?

Peter doesnt want him touching his body while hes soaping up and singing in the shower.

[capuga]

I was right, I didn't think it would actually happen. And I'm really glad it didn't. I'm still a bit disturbed at how many people don't think it would have been rape if it had happened. But I didn't think they'd actually have it happen.

[USERNAME TAKEN]

where was masturbation in that book?

Peter doesnt want him touching his body while hes soaping up and singing in the shower.

Was about to ask to same thing.

Spock was in Spider-man gear when he was thinking of MJ.

[RyanParkerMan]

I posted several times that it was never going to happen.

It couldn't happen. It's too creepy and yes it's wrong in a Spider-Man comic. But I agree with Mister Mets. Doc Ock is a supervillian and we are all in the middle of a different kind of Spider-Man story. So I think it's ok that Dan put the the idea out there. It raised the drama over the past couple of issues, including 700.

And as a Peter MJ fan, I actually really enjoyed parts of SSM2. For the first time since ASM 546, Peter told MJ he loved her and called her his soulmate. I feel that a lot of "Peter and MJ" fans are overlooking this.

[RyanParkerMan]

where was masturbation in that book?

Peter doesnt want him touching his body while hes soaping up and singing in the shower.

I think the poster is referring to the page where Ock rapes Peter's memories of being with Mary Jane. One could certainly interpret that Spock could of been "doing something inappropriate" to Peter's body while he was "reliving" those memories.

I can see Dan and Steve using the same defense they used with MJ and Aunt May. "You're not reading what's on the page and you're bringing your own sick fantasies". The only problem with that is Stegman is going to draw Spock wacking off. Something like that has to be implied.

Look, I liked the issue and I didn't read that scene as anything more than Spock digging into the old memory bank but I did find it way to creepy while I was reading it.

[Derek Metaltron]

Hmmmm, well I think I liked this on the whole. The way Ock elected (at least I assume it was all Ock's decision) not to sleep with Mj was certainly the best way to go about it, and it was nice to hear Peter saying that he still loved MJ. I will probably continue to like SSM so long as it doesn't become evident that the whole exercise is just the latest attempt to have the Spidey Office raise one giant middle finger to the people who want Peter Parker and Mary Jane back together since OMD. Until they get the balls to handle that again, I'll be happy enough enjoying Ock's antics as Spidey, given he is one of my favourite Spidey characters, and I'd quite like to see him become more akin to the Molina Ock and be more redeemable, if still possibly villain'y whne he has to.

As with a lot of people, I think the Ghost Peter has come in way too early. Maybe we did need it to happen, as a kind of comfort blanket, but now he's there... well I'm in two minds about it. I suppose if he wasn't a ghost he'd be in hell for agreeing to a selfish deal with Mephisto.

[David Walton]

And as a Peter MJ fan, I actually really enjoyed parts of SSM2. For the first time since ASM 546, Peter told MJ he loved her and called her his soulmate. I feel that a lot of "Peter and MJ" fans are overlooking this.

Yeah, but you're overlooking the obvious. Peter and MJ have been married and stuck with each other through Hell for over twenty years. Peter calling her his 'soulmate' while Marvel keeps cranking out reasons why they can never work just doesn't mean that much by comparison.

So Peter/MJ fans are about as happy as your wife would be if you told her you wanted to see other people on the side, but she's still your favorite.

[Kevinroc]

Yeah, but you're overlooking the obvious. Peter and MJ have been married and stuck with each other through Hell for over twenty years. Peter calling her his 'soulmate' while Marvel keeps cranking out reasons why they can never work just doesn't mean that much by comparison.

So Peter/MJ fans are about as happy as your wife would be if you told her you wanted to see other people on the side, but she's still your favorite.

When did the Peter/MJ fans become the Tony/Pepper fans?

[Derek Metaltron]

Yeah, but you're overlooking the obvious. Peter and MJ have been married and stuck with each other through Hell for over twenty years. Peter calling her his 'soulmate' while Marvel keeps cranking out reasons why they can never work just doesn't mean that much by comparison.

So Peter/MJ fans are about as happy as your wife would be if you told her you wanted to see other people on the side, but she's still your favorite.

Sums it up nicely there! :)